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Post by Outrajs on Jul 31, 2017 12:14:56 GMT -5
Okay...here is an off the wall question (or food for thought):
How many heroes are divorced when compared to how many villains are divorced? And for that matter, how many villains even get married versus how many heroes do? Is the act of being a hero detrimental to a marriage? And if that is the case...doesn't that kind of go against heroism in its more existential form?
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Post by Jesse on Jul 31, 2017 12:58:02 GMT -5
Is the act of being a hero detrimental to a marriage? I don't think it is but it may work for some heroes better than others. Aquaman for example I think works well married with children. His relationship with Mera is actually one of my favorite things about the modern version of the character. In both volumes of Animal Man Buddy's superhero activities as well as his daughter developing superpowers bring conflict into his daily life which I think is what drives that series and makes it interesting. In that case it could be argued it did put stress on his marriage and I think at one point he and his wife were separated. I actually really enjoy reading stories where Spider-Man is married to Mary Jane and Superman married to Lois Lane. There are current runs featuring their family life being published in Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows and Superman Rebirth. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 13:39:23 GMT -5
I think it adds something exciting to the character. People in a long term relationship all struggle with work/home life balance. Imagine adding being a super hero to the mix! I have enjoyed series that featured married heroes/families from the Fantastic Four to Aquaman & Mera. IMO it is so much better than worrying about finding a date/or hiding your secret ID from your date. Because most of us that get married spend more time married than being single/dating.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 31, 2017 13:39:46 GMT -5
Hmm. I suspect that villains are generally not fleshed out enough to be married, let alone divorced. We need to write better villains!
And my Google Fu is failing me but SOMEONE here knows: What was the name of that '70s DC Divorce Comic? I'm thinking there might have been a Simon and Kirby story in it... could be wrong.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 31, 2017 14:26:41 GMT -5
Lex Luthor (Silver Age version) not only was married, but his wife, Ardora, lived on Lexor, a planet named for its greatest hero, her husband. Thye eventually had a son, Lex Luthor, Jr.    These stories always added further pathos to the already emotionally complex story of Luthor. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 14:32:16 GMT -5
Hmm. I suspect that villains are generally not fleshed out enough to be married, let alone divorced. We need to write better villains! And my Google Fu is failing me but SOMEONE here knows: What was the name of that '70s DC Divorce Comic? I'm thinking there might have been a Simon and Kirby story in it... could be wrong. Is it this? true divorce cases |
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Post by badwolf on Jul 31, 2017 14:37:03 GMT -5
Okay...here is an off the wall question (or food for thought): How many heroes are divorced when compared to how many villains are divorced? And for that matter, how many villains even get married versus how many heroes do? Is the act of being a hero detrimental to a marriage? And if that is the case...doesn't that kind of go against heroism in its more existential form? Animal Man's heroing career got his whole family killed...so I'd say yes, sometimes! I read an issue of the recent (terrible) Spider-Woman series where she goes to a shelter community for abused ex-wives of villains, but I can't remember if any were named. I feel like there have been some named examples in the past, and are probably more so in the slice-of-life style comics we get now, but nothing is coming to me. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 31, 2017 14:56:42 GMT -5
Hmm. I suspect that villains are generally not fleshed out enough to be married, let alone divorced. We need to write better villains! And my Google Fu is failing me but SOMEONE here knows: What was the name of that '70s DC Divorce Comic? I'm thinking there might have been a Simon and Kirby story in it... could be wrong. Is it this? true divorce casesYeah, yeah, yeah! I guess it was never actually published, which is why I couldn't find it on Mike's Amazing World! I suspect I knew about it from reading that article.  |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 31, 2017 15:35:02 GMT -5
Personally I like as little, romance and real life in my comics than most. I guess it's why I latch on to cosmic characters, as they are usually wrapped up in saving universes rather than dating and marriage. I like that Surfer's (off and on) had his memories as Norrin, and his love for his wife are what guide his morals and actions.
I am trying to escape the day to day life by reading comics. So for me, I don't need any real life drama in mine. :-)
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Post by shaxper on Jul 31, 2017 17:51:28 GMT -5
I'm frankly amazed we got this far without someone mentioning Spidey and Mephisto.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 31, 2017 20:44:26 GMT -5
That never happened^
I agree, romance and superheroes go well together. I think it allows for subplots and adds a human element. Does it make a marriage harder? I would imagine it does. But I would also imagine it is much harder on someone like MJ worrying about Peter than it is Sue Storm worrying about Reed. Not that she wouldn't but having powers of her own she could relate a bit more. MJ would likely be freaking out every time something bad happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 21:11:53 GMT -5
I'm frankly amazed we got this far without someone mentioning Spidey and Mephisto. Spidey is a complicated hero that has multiple relationships ... Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson, and Betty Brant ... and not to mention Black Cat and other female characters in Marvel Comics. He had a very complicated life juggling responsibilities as a photographer for the Daily Bugle, working with it's people, taking care of Aunt May after Uncle Ben death and eventually married Mary Jane and after all this he managed to get things done taking care of personal business and tackling Doctor Octopus, Scorpion, Sandman, Green Goblin, and host of deadly adversaries that rival the likes of DC Comics Superman and Batman ... he's young, troubled, doesn't know his next payday is, and most of all he has an enormous challenge befitting him that makes him very human and very real. He has to be extra careful in crime-fighting and that also added an extra burden on his family especially Aunt May if she ever finds out that he's Spider-Man. I don't know much about Mephisto ... but I do know Spider-Man very well and he's a challenging character to write for because of all the responsibilities of a young man that has a huge chip on his shoulders at all times. Peter Parker is an unique character that has burden to bear. |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 31, 2017 21:20:50 GMT -5
I'm frankly amazed we got this far without someone mentioning Spidey and Mephisto. Spidey is a complicated hero that has multiple relationships ... Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson, and Betty Brant ... and not to mention Black Cat and other female characters in Marvel Comics. He had a very complicated life juggling responsibilities as a photographer for the Daily Bugle, working with it's people, taking care of Aunt May after Uncle Ben death and eventually married Mary Jane and after all this he managed to get things done taking care of personal business and tackling Doctor Octopus, Scorpion, Sandman, Green Goblin, and host of deadly adversaries that rival the likes of DC Comics Superman and Batman ... he's young, troubled, doesn't know his next payday is, and most of all he has an enormous challenge befitting him that makes him very human and very real. He has to be extra careful in crime-fighting and that also added an extra burden on his family especially Aunt May if she ever finds out that he's Spider-Man. I don't know much about Mephisto ... but I do know Spider-Man very well and he's a challenging character to write for because of all the responsibilities of a young man that has a huge chip on his shoulders at all times. Peter Parker is an unique character that has burden to bear. I was referring to this:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 21:25:33 GMT -5
shaxper ... Sorry about that, but I have no clue what is Postal Apocalypse is and I've never heard of it. I ask my friend Jeff if he knows anything about this.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 31, 2017 21:39:18 GMT -5
shaxper ... Sorry about that, but I have no clue what is Postal Apocalypse is and I've never heard of it. I ask my friend Jeff if he knows anything about this. 's more info. |
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