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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 27, 2019 11:44:53 GMT -5
So which one is your favorite? I hesitated on whether or not to include World's Finest, as it's not quite what I think of when I think of a team-up book (since it's always got the same 2 characters in that team-up), especially the team-up books I love so much from that era, but I decided to include it anyway. I also know that the Brave and the Bold wasn't really until # 50 (1963), and became a Batman team-up book with #67 (1966).
Anyway, I have to vote for Marvel Two-in-One. First, I love Ben Grimm - he's one of my favorite characters. Plus, while this title was a dumping ground at times to finish of storylines of cancelled comics, it also had some classic stories (Project Pegasus, The Serpent Crown Affair, the Annual with the Champion boxing the earth's heavyweights, the Annual with Starlin's Thanos saga, #50 and #100 by John Byrne where he meets the Thing from the early days of the Fantastic Four). Plus, you get a good dose of George Perez and John Byrne art, and Ron Wilson pencilled a lot of issues and I think he did a very good job.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 11:49:05 GMT -5
DC Comics Presents.
Why? In addition to the team-ups one would expect (with Supergirl, Batman, Robin), there were many I would never have expected: Man-Bat, Santa Claus, Joker, etc. Never failed to surprise me.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 27, 2019 12:26:45 GMT -5
World's Finest was a pure team-up book through different parts of it's life; so it would count even without the regular Superman/Batman team.
Brave and the Bold by acres. There were just so many great stories in it, plus fantastic art by Jim Aparo and comparable artists, over its lifespan. Marvel Team-Up and MTIO both had several great stories; but their batting average was wildly inconsistent. DC Comics Presents was a great team-up title; but, it also suffered from inconsistency. It got out of the gate well, but then would have indifferent stretches, followed by terrific stories. BATB managed a high level of quality for a long time, starting from its days as an anthology and showcase title to a team-up book, even with Bob Haney's wacky continuity.
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 27, 2019 12:36:17 GMT -5
World's Finest was a pure team-up book through different parts of it's life; so it would count even without the regular Superman/Batman team. Brave and the Bold by acres. There were just so many great stories in it, plus fantastic art by Jim Aparo and comparable artists, over its lifespan. Marvel Team-Up and MTIO both had several great stories; but their batting average was wildly inconsistent. DC Comics Presents was a great team-up title; but, it also suffered from inconsistency. It got out of the gate well, but then would have indifferent stretches, followed by terrific stories. BATB managed a high level of quality for a long time, starting from its days as an anthology and showcase title to a team-up book, even with Bob Haney's wacky continuity. I took a quick scan of World's Finest covers and I see that it was a Superman team-up book from #197-210 (1970-1972) but otherwise was a Superman/Batman team-up book as far as I can tell. Thanks for the info. I guess I never realized that, though I think I must have read #198-199 before where he races the Flash. |
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Dec 27, 2019 12:42:13 GMT -5
This is a no-brainer for me: The Brave and the Bold. In the late 60s/early 70s you got a bi-monthly dose of Batman plus a wide range of DC characters (e.g., Teen Titans, Sgt. Rock, Phantom Stranger, Adam Strange, The Creeper, and Black Canary). And what other team-up book would get so conceptual as to pair up its star with an entire title (see House of Mystery below)? A large part of its appeal came from the unique perspective of writer Bob Haney, who, to his immense credit, couldn't have cared less about the silly strictures of continuity. Add some great covers by the likes of Nick Cardy and Neal Adams and interiors by Adams and Jim Aparo and you've got a winner in my book.  |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 27, 2019 12:48:28 GMT -5
It's Brave & Bold and it's not even close. As much as I may have loved MTU and MTIO when they were coming out, the few times I've tried to re-read issues it's been a hard go. B&B was usually very fun and readable and occasionally brilliant. DCCP had Superman.  |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Dec 27, 2019 12:55:39 GMT -5
I voted for Marvel Team-Up. I think Spider-Man had a lot of flexibility in his character to make him a natural in the role, plus it had a Claremont run (many drawn by Byrne) which had a great deal of quality to it.
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Post by brutalis on Dec 27, 2019 13:19:45 GMT -5
When i posed the same question in 2017 in my thread: classiccomics.org/thread/4201/tag-team-who-choose it was the Brave and the Bold who came out the big winner. Let's see what a couple of years difference makes now? I'm going with Marvel Two-in-One as that series had more consistently strong story lines and Aunt Petunia's favorite nephew Benjamin J. Grimm was a more believable hero for others teaming up with. Supes: doesn't really need anybody else. Bats: smarter than all the other's put together. Spidey: a loner and usually portrayed on the fringes of being a criminal if you believe what JJJ writes. Brave and the Bold comes in 2nd for me as the stories were usually daringly different and interesting and Aparo on artwork made any and everybody look SUPER in the series. |
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Post by badwolf on Dec 27, 2019 14:01:10 GMT -5
I voted for MTU. I enjoyed MTIO as well but on re-reading it doesn't hold up as much for me.
I read a chunk of B&TB (Haney & Aparo) and while individual stories are enjoyable, they are all the same, and the villains are mere placeholders (i.e. a story featured Joker and Two-Face, but it could have been anyone.)
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 27, 2019 15:57:15 GMT -5
When i posed the same question in 2017 in my thread: classiccomics.org/thread/4201/tag-team-who-choose it was the Brave and the Bold who came out the big winner. Let's see what a couple of years difference makes now? I'm going with Marvel Two-in-One as that series had more consistently strong story lines and Aunt Petunia's favorite nephew Benjamin J. Grimm was a more believable hero for others teaming up with. Supes: doesn't really need anybody else. Bats: smarter than all the other's put together. Spidey: a loner and usually portrayed on the fringes of being a criminal if you believe what JJJ writes. Brave and the Bold comes in 2nd for me as the stories were usually daringly different and interesting and Aparo on artwork made any and everybody look SUPER in the series. Whoops, I guess I forgot about your thread! Well, like you said, let's see what a couple of years does. I enjoy B&B, but sometimes that Haney stuff gets a bit too zany. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 22:23:36 GMT -5
No contest. The Brave and the Bold. Haney and Aparo were awesome. My favorite Marvel choice would be MTIO.
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Post by tartanphantom on Dec 28, 2019 0:55:13 GMT -5
B&B. Like all the others too, but not even close for me.
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 28, 2019 9:36:57 GMT -5
If I'd remembered brutalis' poll, then I wouldn't be surprised by the results, but since I didn't remember it, I am surprised. I'd expected one of the Marvel titles to win.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 10:24:52 GMT -5
If I'd remembered brutalis' poll, then I wouldn't be surprised by the results, but since I didn't remember it, I am surprised. I'd expected one of the Marvel titles to win. I've read quite a few of MTO and MTIO. Very hit and miss, I found. With BATB and DCCP, the "batting average" was better. Not sure any of them are as good as Scooby-Doo Team-Up, though.  |
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Post by earl on Dec 28, 2019 10:34:05 GMT -5
Claremont's Marvel Team Up is some of his best comics. The issue with the building fire starring Spidey & Luke Cage is an all time Marvel classic. I'd definitely put it up in the all time Marvel greatest hits.
Marvel Two in One was one of my favorites and definitely one that got me hooked when I was a kid back in the late 70s especially the Project Pegasus storyline and you also have Starlin's conclusion to the first big Thanos epic in the one Annual. Gerber's issues are great too. I just loved Ben Grimm's personality in this series and even the follow up Thing solo series. They were always solid reads and ones that I followed month to month most of the time as a little kid.
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