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Post by james on Oct 1, 2020 12:44:35 GMT -5
I was listening to Comic Geek Speaks podcast Amazing Spiderman 121-131. One of the hosts brought up that Gerry Conway had mentioned that Gwen Stacey's death could not be done in todays world. And I started thinking about this and I ask you; are there any classic stories, Dark Phoenix Saga, Killing Joke, Green Lantern /Green Arrow Speedy drug issue. Teen Titans child trafficking that would have the same impact as it they did in the times they were created or even be published? I am thinking more of today's world and sensibilities and no so much about social media ruining endings. Because we know that would be a given!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 15:50:11 GMT -5
One of the hosts brought up that Gerry Conway had mentioned that Gwen Stacey's death could not be done in todays world.
Why?
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Oct 1, 2020 16:29:50 GMT -5
Well seeing as things like murder, rape, torture, bigotry, drug use, and psychopaths all still exist and happen, those stories can still be relevant and told today. Now whether the climate of the US, at least, can weather those stories at this point and time as people get .... fragile, about certain things would be different. You'd be surprised in a country where the level of violence on TWD makes news and people are okay with it, yet some of the same people want to shy away from reality and pretend to be ignorant of the travesties committed within our borders.
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Post by earl on Oct 1, 2020 18:36:15 GMT -5
Killing the girlfriend would be more a bad taste cliche now but modern comics are gruesome and lurid as you get, there are tons of stuff that would get banned in the 80s that are in pretty main stream comics.
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Post by brutalis on Oct 1, 2020 19:43:45 GMT -5
More to the point, today anything which one writer does is almost immediately undone by the next oncoming writer in a few issues.
Nothing is of lasting importance. Any and everything is temporary.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 9:18:14 GMT -5
More to the point, today anything which one writer does is almost immediately undone by the next oncoming writer in a few issues. Nothing is of lasting importance. Any and everything is temporary. Case closed!
It is even expected at this point. It's almost become standard writing for a new writer to change everything back. Foe example: How many times has Daredevil had a secret ID and then his ID be public knowledge?
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 2, 2020 9:28:14 GMT -5
More to the point, today anything which one writer does is almost immediately undone by the next oncoming writer in a few issues. Nothing is of lasting importance. Any and everything is temporary. Case closed!
It is even expected at this point. It's almost become standard writing for a new writer to change everything back. Foe example: How many times has Daredevil had a secret ID and then his ID be public knowledge?
Ri-i-i-ight. It's like there are a hundred different worlds where lots of different versions of the same character exist. That must get so confusing for the poor readers. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 11:31:58 GMT -5
Case closed!
It is even expected at this point. It's almost become standard writing for a new writer to change everything back. Foe example: How many times has Daredevil had a secret ID and then his ID be public knowledge?
Ri-i-i-ight. It's like there are a hundred different worlds where lots of different versions of the same character exist. That must get so confusing for the poor readers. I think we are talking about two different things. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 2, 2020 13:20:01 GMT -5
Ri-i-i-ight. It's like there are a hundred different worlds where lots of different versions of the same character exist. That must get so confusing for the poor readers. I think we are talking about two different things. I'm talking about lots of Earths and on each one a slightly different version of say, Superman exists. He might have a different boss, work for a different paper, have a little more or less strength, may or may not have been Superboy. An infinite number of Earths. That can lead to a crisis, of course. All I was asking is if that's much different from a new and different version of a character every time a new writer signs on or a new number one issue required as a boost to sales. Somehow, most fans manage to keep all the versions straight, even whether DD still has a secret identity in this version. Or if Superman is married on a particular Earth. Multiple Earths? Too confusing. Changing the character substantially every year or so? Completely different. |
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Post by tonebone on Oct 7, 2020 16:07:31 GMT -5
One of the hosts brought up that Gerry Conway had mentioned that Gwen Stacey's death could not be done in todays world.
Why?
Because everything "meaningful" in comics today happens in multi-title, company-wide crossovers, in between long stretches of issues of talking heads and people having brunch and trying to sound hip and ironic with their baby-talk/LOL lingo. Plus, how can anyone's death be impactful and meaningful if they have PROVEN that no one in comics can stay dead. EVER. There used to be a joke that only Uncle Ben and Bucky would ever stay dead... well Bucky is alive and well, and I would be shocked to hear that Uncle Ben has stayed dead for the past 58 years. |
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