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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 28, 2016 10:11:56 GMT -5
Adam, I would love to weigh in on this, just don't have the time right this moment. I think that the camp phase in both Batman titles was less obvious than you might expect, and was actually motre prominent in non-Batman titles and at other companies that jumped on the camp bandwagon, e.g. Mighty Comics' Mighty Crusaders. Just do a quick scan of Batman and Detective covers during the heyday of the TV series. No correlation at all in tone or style. Oh, there's the famous "Batman" watching the Batman show cover, and a Joker cover with Gaggy, but (and I'm relying on memory just now) not a whole heckuva lot of the "BAM! POW!" stuff that was so much a part of the TV show. Have to go, but check out those covers and compare them to others and you'll see that far from going through a camp phase in his own titles, Batman never had to make as dramatic a transition as he did when the "New Look" was introduced. I agree that the Batman comics published during the TV show were not camp. The TV show was camp. Everything on the show was done tongue in cheek. Non comic book readers probably assumed the tv show was a reflection of the comic. But it wasn't. And the Batman covers Prince Hal references were not totally accurate representations of the tone of the story inside. The DC comics of this time were notorious for having cover images that you could not find inside the comic.(I can't swear this was the case for the Batman watching the Batman TV show cover but in general, DC covers were misleading.) The Batman stories of this period may have used colorful villains more than they would have without the tv show, but otherwise, it is misleading to say the Batman comics were camp. Camp is in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 28, 2016 7:11:06 GMT -5
....you see someone in an old movie or tv show reading a comic book and you can immediately identify the issue.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 27, 2016 20:44:09 GMT -5
I've been buying Old Time Radio shows on CD and DVD. They are MP3 Files. I had to buy a rather expensive player that will play both CDs and DVDs. These discs will play on any computer. But I needed a player that would play next to my bed because I listen to them at night when I go to sleep. I had to buy a rather expensive player that would play both CDs and DVDs. It's the size of a boombox but is MP3 capable. Previously I had a CD player but it would not play the DVDs.
When you buy OTR programs on disc, sometimes they are on CDs and sometimes DVDs. I had to have a player that would play both types of discs.
I like the private eye shows like Richard Diamond and Johnny Dollar.
WGN radio in Chicago plays OTR shows late at night on the weekends.
There is a syndicated show called When Radio Was that I can also pick up late nights on the AM band.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 27, 2016 19:30:16 GMT -5
.....you can't understand why you can't find a girlfriend who looks like Power Girl.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 27, 2016 13:46:35 GMT -5
I don't know how far back we are going, but in the very very early Batman stories, Bruce Wayne was a playboy. I don't think I ever spent much time wondering where he got the money to be a playboy. And I had just assumed Bruce had inherited Wayne Manor from his parents. But a late 50s Batman story I read recently shows Bruce buying the mansion when he was an adult. At the time he did not know about the Batcave beneath it. He was going to use an old barn on the property to house the Batmobile.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 26, 2016 14:22:09 GMT -5
... If you remember when a certain event in your life happened by asking yourself what comic you were reading at the time. (I drive my wife nuts with that!!! ) I bought Captain America Annual(Special)#2, Jan 1972 at a 7-11 to have something to read in the car when I had to go to an out of town funeral with my parents. RIP in Grandma.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 25, 2016 22:27:33 GMT -5
...one or more of your computer passwords is comic book related.
...you know the addresses of DC and Marvel Comics in the 1960s.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 25, 2016 15:58:43 GMT -5
...you know that Bob Kane did not draw every Batman story with his name on it.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 25, 2016 6:36:08 GMT -5
...you own more superhero action figures than your kids.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 23, 2016 17:37:38 GMT -5
....you are bothered by trivial stuff like this. I was reading some Batman stories from the 50s. The Batplane had the face of Batman in a circle on the side of the plane. I think most of the time the Batplane has a Bat symbol on it.
This bothers me.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 15, 2016 9:06:01 GMT -5
Don't know if this was a jab but in Superman 126 there was a story titled The Two Faces of Superman in which Supes disguised himself as Alfred E. Newman. This was in 1959 long before MAD and DC Comics were owned by the same company. It was reprinted in Superman Annual #3. www.comics.org/issue/16334/cover/4/
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 11, 2016 12:30:31 GMT -5
We may be forgetting that Stan was Roy's boss. Roy probably had to carry out orders from Stan that he didn't agree with. Marvel art director John Romita took a lot of flack from fans for redrawing faces on other artist's work, especially on covers. Romita said in an interview that he was carrying out orders from Stan and that he probably wouldn't have done it if the decision had been left to him. Jack probably viewed Roy as a sycophant but the reality was that Roy worked for Stan. Also, Jack was riding high at DC during this period and was getting a lot of demons out of his system. After all, he certainly would never be working for Marvel again.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 8, 2016 12:48:05 GMT -5
When I first saw the title of this thread it made me think of editorial jabs, usually in the letters pages. Marvel may have started it on the Bullpen Bulletins page by referring to DC as their Distinguished Competitor. But I know I've seen DC editors make snide comments on their letters pages in the 60s.
But I can recall any specific examples.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 7, 2016 7:27:39 GMT -5
There was the one from 1966 in Adventure #350 where Chameleon Boy takes a shot at Spider-Man (courtesy of CBR's "Comic Legends Revealed" column):
According to the GCD, this story was written by E. Nelson Bridwell. Bridwell was probably one of the few people at DC who was aware of what was going on at Marvel.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Apr 2, 2016 13:15:26 GMT -5
First, the Chan Count: Ernie "Chua" Chan is credited as penciling 12 out of 30 DC comics covers this month, but I'll eat my hat if he's not responsible for detailed layouts on Action Comics 460 (Oksner) and Superman 300 (Swan/Oksner). Neither of those guys did that kind of lumpy musculature that makes the characters look like the Remco Archie superhero toys of the 80's. I've got a suspicion that Chan also laid out a few more covers this month, which have a lot of minimal backgrounds (Kung Fu Fighter, Metal Men, Brave & Bold for example). It looks like DC might be starting to reduce its reliance on Chan for covers, with Giordano and Garcia-Lopez doing three each, and Dominguez doing four. I'm starting to really resent Chan's dominance of DC's covers in the 70's. I think they were detrimental to the appeal of the line. At the time, I'd grown to pretty much ignoring the covers, myself, realizing that they were rarely indicative of the quality or content of the interiors. I agree. And the DC covers had weak pastel colored backgrounds that made them even more unappealing. And I think they had the single DC logo in the center of the masthead which I didn't like and they had some kind of Bi-Centennial logo also. I wasn't buying any regular comics at this time because most of my favorite artists had left. I was probably buying Warren mags at this time.
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