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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 16:47:11 GMT -5
Go hate on disco....I will survive!
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 16:43:29 GMT -5
You guys are "dancing" around the issue. This little jewel was clearly the height of the era. KISS was on a disco label....Casablanca.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 16:39:20 GMT -5
I concur. There were some bright moments, even in late-era disco… Well, if you are going to bring hookers into it.......
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 14:44:21 GMT -5
I thought I would go right to the source..... Palos Komiks #6Cover by Nestor Redondo
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 14:16:37 GMT -5
KC and the Sunshine Band.....
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 14:12:57 GMT -5
Legend RIP: Norman Lear dead at 101. A titan in television, who turned sitcoms into a platform to explore social issues, while still delivering laughs.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 14:10:19 GMT -5
Stingray I see working for a global security organization, possibly with an aquatic mandate. I see high tech subs, underwater bases....perhaps a self-contained city complex that can be lowered underground, by massive hydraulics. He would encounter aquatic humanoid lifeforms, some of whom might join in his adventures. I also imagine a really cool theme song. I believe Stingray once joined in a mob of characters trying to join the Defenders, and I believe he was briefly in a group of underwater characters that Marvel put together, probably in a Namor title. He has always been high on my list, both because of his elegant costume, but also because of what Cody's implicitly picked up on ... I think he works best when he's NOT a superhero. After all, he designed the costume not to fight crime, but to help with underwater research ... it just so happens that it gives him super-strength, and because he's a mensch, he helps out other superheroes when the need arises. So I want to see a series about him being an underwater explorer, primarily. The one character that I'm amazed hasn't had a solo series yet is BATROC. Written by Jean-Marc Lofficier (possibly in conjunction with Jeff Parker or Gail Simone), fighting outrageous Gallic villains from the MU or from French literature. Now see, Batroc, done right, could be a hell of a character. If you look at his background, he should be a badass: savate expert, French Foreign Legion soldier, deadly mercenary. Instead, he was usually played for laughs and ,just ran around kicking people, because no one in comics knew the first thing about savate. Throw parkour in there and you could have some really cool action sequences. Ed Brubaker did a little rehabilitation, during the Bucky Captain Puerto Rico phase and he was handled well in Winter Soldier (except for the stupid wire fu stuff) and Falcon & The Winter Soldier. Kierron Gillen handled him well in Captain America and Batroc. Not quite what I was hoping for; but better than some past uses.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 13:13:29 GMT -5
ps Without disco songs, we'd never get the Communards later covers of said disco songs....
The incomparable Jimmy Somerville and the dancing Reverend (for real) Richard Coles!
(There was a running gag on Have I Got News For You of Ian Hislop, editor of Private Eye and team captain, looking like Jimmy Somerville)
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 12:59:04 GMT -5
I generally dislike disco, though I do like some of it's derivatives, like Italo disco and hi-NRG. Go figure. Though most of my teenage years were spent in the 2000s, I have zero nostalgia for that decade. I look back on noughties pop culture and I hate almost every aspect of it, from nu metal to reality TV. Most of Disco is trash, but that's what happens when everybody and there mother tries to capitalize on something popular. I love Italo Disco purely because how much of a wonderfully strange sub-genre it is I was also a teen in the 00's and had a good time during it. A lot was happening then with the anime/manga boom, the sixth generation of consoles, and the ruthless aggression era of wrestling to keep me interested Most attempts to cash in on disco were trash. There is plenty of great disco music and if you are broad enough to consider disco an extension of funk and other dance-oriented music, there is a ton of great stuff. I grew up in the 70s and mainly am a rock and roll person; but, I loved the hell out of a lot of disco and funk, enough so that I have a playlist saved on youtube, for my own personal enjoyment. I'm probably more into funk; but, the disco side is good and there was a lot of crossover between the two, earlier on. You get stuff produced by Nile Rogers (of Chic) or Giorgio Moroder and you have tremendous music. Saturday Night Fever was a tremendous album. Paul Jabara created this bit..... There some real iconic stuff in mid-late 70s movies, especially "The Chase," aka the theme to The Midnight Express....... Donna Summer, Sister Sledge, the Bee Gees, Chic, Gloria Gaynor, Anita Ward, Alicia Bridges, Boney M, Vicki Sue Robinson.... Even the Village People (to a point). There is definite trash at the end of the 70s and most Hollywood attempts at using disco in tv and film is laughably bad; but, there were the exceptions, like Saturday Night Fever. Heck, even the theme to the tv show SWAT was a disco hit (in a modified form, by Rhythm Heritage).... So, yeah, disco on CHiPs....trash; but, how can you not love Meco's disco reworkings of top movie themes? Besides, what other music matched the heartrate of a person on cocaine?
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2023 12:14:52 GMT -5
Depends on the context. One or two pages in an annual or giant size is one thing; something like Marvel Fanfare, where it was whole portfolios because they split the story across issues or didn't have content worthy of the format (or long enough) is quite another. I preferred them when they serve a purpose, like in the Daredevil annual, where it introduced you to his brownstone, the billy club and such or where you got an intro to the characters you might not know. Howard Chaykin used them to great effect in American Flagg to fill in information about the world, so you could understand what the heck was going on.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 5, 2023 22:06:10 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 5, 2023 22:05:23 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 5, 2023 22:03:00 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 5, 2023 22:01:29 GMT -5
That Outland story is cool and worthy of reprinting, but what I would REALLY like to see is a high quality reprint of Superman 400, including that Steranko Superman story. It looks great, I have to admit. If only it were some character other than Superman ... You can lead a horse to Superman; but you can't make him believe a man can fly. Or something. Anyway, there's a horse involved in there, somewhere.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 5, 2023 21:58:54 GMT -5
I haven't yet read Panther's Rage in its entirety either, having come in I think around the last one or two issues, maybe three if you count the epilogue; but somehow I still have a positive view of it, ins pite of not being blind to McGregor's flaws as a writer. The fact that I really like Bill Graham's artwork probably helps a lot. I have all the back issues now but have been putting off reading 1960s and '70s Marvel in general until I get done with other things. I was kind of lucky. My cousin had the initial issues of the story, then the later ones, at the finale; so, I kind of missed out on the middle, for quite a while. As such, it didn't get a chance to start to wear thin, as the story sags. I bought all of the issues while in college and found, overall, I still really liked the story. I later had the hardcover collection and McGregor did take patience, especially when he was kind of keeping T'Challa and Killmonger away from each other; but, once he kicked it back in gear, it worked out well. Some of the guys at Marvel had trouble ending stories and McGregor had a definite end in mind. His problem was he was kind of stringing things out to play character moments and be poetic. I think part of his problem, as a writer, was that he wanted to be Hemingway; but, he was writing Talbot Mundy stories. I don't think he ever really embraced the pulp nature of what he was doing, even though he could plot with the best of them.
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