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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jan 5, 2015 14:57:47 GMT -5
I want to do this with books I KNOW they'll NEVER put into collection. Like, the entirety of Alpha Flight vol. 1. I got no problem with this. There are plenty of later issues that not many people will miss seeing in discount bins |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 16:04:19 GMT -5
I do hope no one does this with Golden or Silver Age books. Those are national treasues and like famous old buildings they should qualify under the National Landmark Act. Slabbing them in Mylar is as far as that should go with rarer comics Yeah...  |
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Post by MDG on Jan 5, 2015 16:05:15 GMT -5
That's right. And the Mona Lisa is just a bunch of paint strokes  Yeah but there's only one of it. Not much of a risk at this point that any Silver Age books are going to disappear. I recently bought a bunch of SA DC's for 50 cents each. I saw they had binder holes punched into them, but when i read them I saw that the original owner had cut out any pages that had ads on both sides and glued other pages together so that the only readable pages were the stories (and letter pages). |
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Post by junkmonkey on Jan 5, 2015 16:43:58 GMT -5
That's right. And the Mona Lisa is just a bunch of paint strokes True, but binding comic books isn't messing with the original art. We're not buying original Bristol board comic book art and colouring it in with felt pens. The Mona Lisa is unique*. Comic books are reproductions. There are plenty of books with reproductions of the Mona Lisa in. The last book I made up was made from issues 7-11 of Kirby's New Gods from 1972. I'll be making up a book from issues 1-6 when I can find a cheap enough copy of number 1. These are not museum pieces. They're low grade comic books meant to be read by kids and passed on to be read again. My bound copies of New Gods will be more accessible and more often read (by me and my three kids at least) in a bound book than individually bagged, boarded, filed, and forgotten in a box. *Though that is a debatable point given that there are several contemporaneous versions of the painting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculations_about_Mona_Lisa#Other_versions |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jan 5, 2015 17:00:51 GMT -5
In the end, these are comic books, not irreplaceable works of art. As such, they are a commercial product and the owner can do whatever they want with them, up to and including shredding them into confetti. If someone owns comics and wants to bind their comics together into books, that's totally up to them. Let's keep the discussion friendly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 17:12:07 GMT -5
That's right. And the Mona Lisa is just a bunch of paint strokes True, but binding comic books isn't messing with the original art. We're not buying original Bristol board comic book art and colouring it in with felt pens. The Mona Lisa is unique*. Comic books are reproductions. There are plenty of books with reproductions of the Mona Lisa in. The last book I made up was made from issues 7-11 of Kirby's New Gods from 1972. I'll be making up a book from issues 1-6 when I can find a cheap enough copy of number 1. These are not museum pieces. They're low grade comic books meant to be read by kids and passed on to be read again. My bound copies of New Gods will be more accessible and more often read (by me and my three kids at least) in a bound book than individually bagged, boarded, filed, and forgotten in a box. *Though that is a debatable point given that there are several contemporaneous versions of the painting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculations_about_Mona_Lisa#Other_versionsNew Gods was reprinted in 1984 with a new ending. DC combined the series into six issues on baxter paper, and can be found for a dollar or two an issue. Not sure if that is something that interests you are not, but I thought I would let you know all the same. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 5, 2015 19:07:27 GMT -5
That's kinda crazy to do it yourself! I'm both impressed and horrified.  I've thought about doing this a couple times, but I actually enjoy looking at the ads and such in old comics... I find them to be fun cultural snippets in alot of cases... so I don't think I'd remove them.. that's kinda the big bonus of having the originals. That said, some of the stuff I've seen pics on on line IS really nice, and for stuff that is neither particularly rare or valuable, it seems like a nice way to store and display |
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Post by junkmonkey on Jan 5, 2015 20:05:05 GMT -5
I forgot to mention in my OP that I did consider trimming the pages so the edges were less ragged. As I don't have a guillotine I was resigned to having them less than perfectly square edged. Then I realised that though I don't have a guillotine I do have a couple of circular saws. Chop saw and table. I did some experiments with some old magazines (not comics) and the results weren't great but I figured a couple of ways to improve on them. I may get back to it but for the moment I'm content with what I have. I too love the old ads and while enthusing over Kirby's art in a book to Daughter Number One the other day noticed she was spending more time reading the adverts than the story. History lessons. Here's the cover (so far) for the next one I'm doing: The 2002 Killraven 6 parter.  killraven-cover by the_junk_monkey, on Flickr The War Machine is a drawing I did a couple of months ago but didn't know what to do with. I think I'm just going to add a silhouetted KR in the holding a sword aloft in the foreground and call it quits at that. (I'll redo the lower layer of the lettering too. That went a bit pants somewhere) |
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Post by Pharozonk on Jan 5, 2015 20:10:00 GMT -5
In the end, these are comic books, not irreplaceable works of art. As such, they are a commercial product and the owner can do whatever they want with them, up to and including shredding them into confetti. If someone owns comics and wants to bind their comics together into books, that's totally up to them. Let's keep the discussion friendly. I don't think anyone would want to see a copy of Action Comics #1 in someone's personal collection of the Golden Age Adventures of Superman. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jan 5, 2015 22:48:53 GMT -5
Comics, or any material thing are only worth what they are to each individual. Tomorrow if I cash a 10 million dollar lottery ticket you'll never see me buy an Action 1 or Detective 17 (? I think I'm not even sure about the issue number). I spent who knows how much on the comics I have and couldn't get jack for them now. It's not the object, a painting, a book, a LP/tape/CD, etc it's what the material inspires and how it effects you personally. I'd sell of all my original Warlock, Thanos, GotG stuff in a second (at least what I have reprinted) if this price jacking continues to put money in my pocket. I'm not less wowed by the Baxter reprints than I am the original issues. It's Starlin's craft at writing a story that impacted me, not smelly ole newsprint.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 6, 2015 3:52:46 GMT -5
I want to do this with books I KNOW they'll NEVER put into collection. Like, the entirety of Alpha Flight vol. 1. Or Master of Kung-Fu. A friend of mine has the black & white reprints of Will Eisner's Spirit sections from the early '70s all bound together in a hard back book. It's a real nice looking item to have, especially as they were quite flimsy to start with. Binding them has made them much easier to store, more attractive to read, and ensured their survival for the last 40 odd years. I've told him I want it bequeathed to me when he dies. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 4:46:44 GMT -5
Epic Illustrated would be a good one. No chance of that being collected either.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 6, 2015 9:45:52 GMT -5
As I mentioned on the other thread, I had three sets of comics bound back in college ('79 or thereabouts): Iron Man #1-25, Howard the Duck #1-25 and The Demon #1-16. They were done at a discount (because I was a student) by the campus bindery, who did an incredible, archivally sound job of it. Each was clothbound with gold lettering on the spine. The Iron Man volume was red, Howard brown, Demon black. As best as I could tell, each comic was cut in half along the spine, the pages trimmed and then sewn into the binding. A few years later, I donated them to a charity auction at one of our local conventions (can't remember what they were raising funds for). I've seen the Howard set once in all the years since but never the others. If anybody ever sees them for sale, let me know. You'll know they're mine because "Kurt Mitchell" will be printed in the lower right corner of the front covers.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 6, 2015 13:32:00 GMT -5
In the end, these are comic books, not irreplaceable works of art. As such, they are a commercial product and the owner can do whatever they want with them, up to and including shredding them into confetti. If someone owns comics and wants to bind their comics together into books, that's totally up to them. Let's keep the discussion friendly. I don't think anyone would want to see a copy of Action Comics #1 in someone's personal collection of the Golden Age Adventures of Superman. I can't say I'd mind, I mean as is locked away in various safes it's not as if any of else will ever be able to see or read the copies of Action Comics #1 and at current prices we'd never hope to be able to purchase such an issue from the current owners which makes them effectively no-existent to readers like us where as I image a person who chose to take a copy of Action Comics #1 and bind into their own personal collection would most likely be doing so for ease of reading and be much more apt to share said collection with others or exhibit it at various conventions making that copy much more "real" than those hidden away. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jan 6, 2015 15:01:55 GMT -5
A bound volume of Detective Comics was last year unbound and slabbed for individual sale. The copies grade out at 0.5, which is considered Poor. Still too rich for my blood, even in this state.  |
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