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Post by MDG on May 9, 2014 14:11:22 GMT -5
(Our Motto: "Everything published after 1970 is crap!") I'm in! |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 9, 2014 14:14:59 GMT -5
I have to question any club that would have Dan as a member.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 9, 2014 14:20:31 GMT -5
I have to question any club that would have Dan as a member. has to clean up after the meetings. Cei-U! I summon the ulterior motive! |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 9, 2014 14:26:51 GMT -5
Not to break up your old fart reminiscing, but artists today are MUCH better at deadlines... In the same world, I suppose, in which Oasis was a keyboard band, Stone Roses were a grunge band, Dropkick Murphys are ... god knows what ... a chamber orchestra, for all I know. Etc. etc. etc. Seriously? Fill ins were an almost month occurance back in the day. Other than a few specific artists (that no one thinks can actually maintain a monthly but Marvel and DC) late books are pretty rare. That's why DC messing up Forever Evil was news... if it happened alot, it wouldn't be news  |
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Post by paulie on May 9, 2014 14:35:17 GMT -5
Not having read through the thread completely, I think there are plenty of excellent comics out there today.
It is DC and Marvel that have let us down in the last couple of decades.
As go they, so goes the industry?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 14:49:46 GMT -5
In the same world, I suppose, in which Oasis was a keyboard band, Stone Roses were a grunge band, Dropkick Murphys are ... god knows what ... a chamber orchestra, for all I know. Etc. etc. etc. Seriously? Fill ins were an almost month occurance back in the day. Other than a few specific artists (that no one thinks can actually maintain a monthly but Marvel and DC) late books are pretty rare. That's why DC messing up Forever Evil was news... if it happened alot, it wouldn't be news They seemed rather common a few years ago, to the point that the whole Civil War train got derailed for awhile there because some precious artiste couldn't meet deadline. That sort of inexcusable nonsense could well have become comparatively rare in recent years; I haven't paid attention since 2010 or so. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 9, 2014 15:31:02 GMT -5
I wasn't buying monthlies during Civil War... you could be right. In the last 18 months or so, there's only been a couple... Hawkeye got delayed, the Forever Evil Fiasco, and Sandman.
I suppose you could count Inhuman as well, but that was more an reboot than a delay.
I guess Black Dynamite, if that counts, but indies are always late in every era.
Heck, even Astro City has been on time since it's restart.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 9, 2014 15:32:59 GMT -5
Quality-wise, I must admit that the whippersnappers aren't wrong... there are very good comics nowadays. The scripts can also be interesting, and there are many gems amid the dross.
The main thing which all the super-hero/fantasy/spin-off publishers are guilty of is something Jim Steranko best voiced in the 70s: instead of utilizing their great collection of characters and concepts, they exploit them. "Exploit" in its most crass, commercial and ugly sense. Scrap classic stories, do horrible things to characters, retroactively make everyone ugly, introduce rape, torture and dismemberment in comics that were originally meant for children, and so forth. That's not showing respect for the material, and it sure doesn't appeal to me.
When Russ Manning took over Tarzan in the 60s, the character already had decades of history. But he didn't need to mismanage the character and his world to make his new stories among the best Tarzan tales there had ever been.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 9, 2014 15:45:01 GMT -5
Not having read through the thread completely, I think there are plenty of excellent comics out there today. You'll never get anywhere in this club with an attitude like that, young man! Cei-U! Say fifteen "grumblegripes" as penance! |
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Post by Rob Allen on May 9, 2014 15:47:27 GMT -5
I'm in. Sure, there are good comics today, even great ones. But they're not like they used to be.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 9, 2014 15:48:36 GMT -5
I think we should extend the end date for acceptable comics a little farther into the 1970s so we can include Shanna the She-Devil and "Where Were You the Night Batman Was Killed?"
And Marvel Value Stamps!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 9, 2014 15:52:24 GMT -5
If Conan comics can not be included, I'll cry. In a manly way.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 9, 2014 15:55:46 GMT -5
Forget the old motto. Anything up through, say, 1986 can be enjoyed without compromising one's curmudgeon cred.
Cei-U!
I'm such a rebel!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 15:55:59 GMT -5
I think we should extend the end date for acceptable comics a little farther into the 1970s so we can include Shanna the She-Devil and "Where Were You the Night Batman Was Killed?" And Marvel Value Stamps! Off the top of my head, I'd say anything before the dreaded Direct Market era is fair game. Comics were meant to be read &/or bought out of spinner racks at corner drugstores, dammit, preferable with a 10-cent coke in one hand & a 5-cent candy bar in the other. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 15:57:57 GMT -5
Forget the old motto. Anything up through, say, 1986 can be enjoyed without compromising one's curmudgeon cred. Cei-U! I'm such a rebel! This is no time to go wobbly, Kurt. |
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