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Post by paulie on Jun 11, 2014 15:28:10 GMT -5
He said Heisenberg Jr.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 11, 2014 18:31:09 GMT -5
Nah, that young soldier (Heisenberg junior, whose actual name eludes me) was the hero: he was the one with a high emotional investment in what happened, he's the one who undertook a difficult mission that would likely result in his death, and he's the one who finally saved San Francisco from the nuke. Plus he burned all the baby monsters thanks to quick thinking. [/quote] I'll give you the baby monsters, that was good, but he failed to get the nuclear bomb either to kill the MUTO or go out to sea, that's one the big plot holes... the bomb was just a bit off the coast, but it was no trouble? Godzilla, meanwhile, even if he was clearly on the side of the angels (or mother Nature, Serizawa would say) never looked as if the two MUTOs presented any big threat. He whipped the male but good, and even when the two Brood-lookalikes ganged up on him, all he needed to beat them was to take a beauty nap and use his fiery breath. (Godzilla's Note to Self: "next time, lead with that"). Sure, he looked great while doing it, but had he not been there the army would have detonated their superduper H bomb and although San Fran would have been lost, the monsters would have been destroyed. Not that there was any big hurry anyway: as the movie's opening established, the baby monsters, had they hatched, would likely have spent the next 15 years or so incubating in big cocoons as their parents had done in Japan and Yuca Flats. I sorta assumed the radioactive lightning breath was a last resort, and took alot out of him, thus not leading with it. The MUTOs trashed alot of stuff, and were planning on basically replacing humans at the top of the food chain, that's a pretty big threat. As to the superduper bomb, it detonated and didn't cause any damage, so I don't have alot of confidence in it. The fact that the babies would have took 15 years to be a threat makes your boy's contribution less exciting, not more. Speaking of the latter: how come the US army didn't notice from the outside that half the mountain was missing? And how come Godzilla creates tsunamis when he comes out of the water but not when he goes in? And if the goal was to attract the monsters away from the city by luring them with a big H bomb, why was it a problem to use an EMP-sensitive aircraft to fly to a place where the monsters weren't? And how can creatures eat radioactivity anyway??? Godilla-sized plot holes! I demand a Honest Trailers treatment for this film!!!  All good questions... I had a couple too. How did the monsters do all that damage silently... on 1 occasions, we had a camera pan to a window were suddently massive buildings were missing or half-destroyed. Why, pray tell, did the Japanese government never bother to check out those notes BEFORE the scientist dude did... in 15 years they never thought to look in the house of the lead engineer of the plant? Also, how the heck to you open a parachute like 30 feet from the ground when going at terminal velocity and survive? How the heck did the army guys CARRY the super nuclear bomb UP that giant crevice, in like 10 minutes? Why didn't they try a bit harder to open the panel and defuse the thing? |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 12, 2014 6:44:40 GMT -5
Good questions indeed!
There's definitely going to be a sequel. I wonder what it will be about.
Hypothesis one: more monsters from long ago. Kind of repetitive, but easy to make.
Hypothesis two: a cautionary tale about genetic engineering, as certain governments react to the MUTOs and the big G by building their own supermonsters (which naturally get out of control). That would be a nice thematic follow-up to the "nuclear threat" allegory of the first film.
Hypothesis three: alien monsters, à la King Ghidorah. Maybe a cautionary tale about our recklessness in always sticking our head farther than we should. (Much as I'd like to see Ghidorah again, I am very much in favor of space exploration so that theme wouldn't be to my taste).
Hypothesis four: Jet Jaguar! ... ... ... ... No. Just no.
Hypothesis five: the smog monster! I don't know how that could work in a believable way, but perhaps some pollution-induced mutation that turns an animal (or a bunch of living creatures all amalgamated) into a big bruiser? Anyway, an anti-pollution message of some kind would fit well with Godzilla 2014's view that we're often better off letting Mother Nature handle things.
Hypothesis six: Godzilla vs a giant robot of some kind? That would probably be too soon after Pacific Rim.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 12, 2014 7:04:05 GMT -5
I think #2 is the way to go... some government tries to create an anti-Godzilla, and someone else tries to brain wash him... maybe a clone?
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Post by Pharozonk on Jun 12, 2014 8:25:46 GMT -5
I think #2 is the way to go... some government tries to create an anti-Godzilla, and someone else tries to brain wash him... maybe a clone? Mechagodzilla? I'm not sure humanity in this Godzilla universe would try to fight Godzilla though. If the last few minutes of the movie are any indication, they are happy that he saved them and look at him as a savior of sorts. Plus, Dr. Serizawa makes it clear that Godzilla only ever comes out of dormancy whenever he senses prey so he wouldn't really be ever bothering them. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 12, 2014 11:16:06 GMT -5
And thus would be the movie. Some government types not trusting Godzilla, with Dr. Serizawa shaking his head sadly and trying to stop them. Then when it goes out of control, Godzilla comes and saves the day.
I can totally see that.
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Post by Action Ace on Apr 1, 2015 21:18:41 GMT -5
 2016! |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 1, 2015 21:34:21 GMT -5
2016! Hah, that's great! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 21:59:07 GMT -5
Godzilla 2016Link to Godzilla 2016Hideaki Anno and Shinji Higuchi, known for their work on “Neon Genesis Evangelion” and the upcoming live-action Attack on Titan, will co-direct the feature. Anno will pen the script for the series with Higuchi set to supervise the special effects.I know about these two Japanese (Both Directors) Filmmakers and they do an excellent job and Higuchi is a master of special effects and I know that these two will produce a superior product and most of all will make Godzilla 2016 a great film. It will be a powerhouse film that will not leave any fan of GODZILLA disappointed.
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Post by Pharozonk on Apr 3, 2015 9:38:51 GMT -5
I'm pretty excited to see where Toho goes with this. If we're lucky, this movie will appeal to American audiences and get them to discover what the the original Godzilla was all about.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 3, 2015 21:48:20 GMT -5
I had no idea this was for a wholly TOHO version, it'll be interesting to see two versions out.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 23, 2015 8:12:25 GMT -5
I just watched Godzilla (2015) last night and enjoyed it fairly well. I didn't have my hopes up after the last Godzilla movie we had, but in the end I liked it. Nothing I would probably own, or seek out on my own to watch again, but it didn't disappoint for a library rental. The monster battles were pretty awesome, and really dig the look of Godzilla in this movie. Looking on the wikipedia article for the movie, I saw that there was accusations that the MUTO was too similar to the Cloverfield monster. Now I've only seen both movies once, but I don't see it. Eh, the internet right? Godzilla taking out the female MUTO was so badass. That brought me back to the childhood awe of monster battles. Like the first time I saw Destroy All Monsters. If I were to make any nerd gripe about the movie it would be the Godzilla roar. That should just never, ever change. If it's not broke don't fix it. But that's it. Otherwise a nice time spent watching it with my son. Edit: I'm not sure humanity in this Godzilla universe would try to fight Godzilla though. If the last few minutes of the movie are any indication, they are happy that he saved them and look at him as a savior of sorts. Plus, Dr. Serizawa makes it clear that Godzilla only ever comes out of dormancy whenever he senses prey so he wouldn't really be ever bothering them. I really enjoyed this angle of the movie. Especially since I spent a lot of time explaining the originally creation of Godzilla and how it was a reflection of what not just the Japanese who had been devastated by nuclear attack, but the whole world on the uncertainty of nuclear weapons and power. |
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Post by Action Ace on Apr 23, 2015 9:23:46 GMT -5
coming in July...  Godzilla in Hell by James Stokoe 5 issue mini series |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 23, 2015 10:41:39 GMT -5
coming in July... Godzilla in Hell by James Stokoe 5 issue mini series I haven't really liked any of IDW's Godzilla comics since the first mini with phil hester but that cover is sweet |
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Post by Jesse on Apr 25, 2015 21:13:05 GMT -5
Just watched the Gareth Edwards' Godzilla film on HBO for the first time and really enjoyed it. I thought they absolutely did it justice. The casting is pretty good and Bryan Cranston acts his ass off. While I didn't actually care much about the characters all the action was epic especially the kaiju fights. They also lay some interesting groundwork for potential sequels. I'm really looking forward to the sequel especially if Mothra is involved.
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