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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 21:31:39 GMT -5
Rob AllenThe above post one above wildfire2099 ... thanks for sharing that. I did not know that. The previous page ... thanks again!
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Post by fred2 on May 15, 2017 22:27:37 GMT -5
 For a moment, I thought that was Darkseid. Certainly looks like a prototype for him. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 16, 2017 15:22:11 GMT -5
I didn't really think of that when I first saw it, but you're right, color him differently and it totally could be Darkseid!
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Post by Prince Hal on May 16, 2017 15:44:14 GMT -5
Come visit the Shakespeare and Comics thread for more stuff you can't see here anymore!  |
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Post by Rob Allen on May 16, 2017 16:05:04 GMT -5
Prince Hal - was this post meant for the Shakespeare thread?
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Post by Prince Hal on May 16, 2017 16:30:03 GMT -5
Prince Hal - was this post meant for the Shakespeare thread? D'oh! Nothing to see here... |
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Post by fred2 on May 16, 2017 19:27:13 GMT -5
For a moment, I thought that was Darkseid. Certainly looks like a prototype for him. Meanwhile, back to the Darkseid look-alike. I am convinced that Kirby saw this and may have been subconsciously influenced on his design for Darkseid. The resemblance is uncanny. |
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Post by Prince Hal on May 16, 2017 21:24:29 GMT -5
Meanwhile, back to the Darkseid look-alike. I am convinced that Kirby saw this and may have been subconsciously influenced on his design for Darkseid. The resemblance is uncanny. And I am equally convinced that those two guys with him subconsciously influenced Kirby and are obviously the models for the Impossible Man. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 18, 2017 14:00:42 GMT -5
Flash #113 'Danger in the Air' Broome/Infantino/Giella Plot: A new villain is in town.. the Trickster. We get his origin story.. he invents flying shoes to avoid the embarassment of telling his family he's afraid of the high wire, and decides being the start isn't enough, he wants to be like his almost namesake Jesse James, and decides to hold up planes. Flash challenges him to a 'trick duel' but loses... luckily, his police training kicks in and he figures out the bad guy is probably with the circus, and catches him before he can escape again.  Notes: - I had no idea the Trickster's origin was so similar to Dick Grayson, has anyone ever played on that? Maybe when he was a good guy for a while? Seems like something Waid would have done, but I don't recall it happening. - On the Barry and Iris front, not only does he tell Iris he was 'helping the Flash' as an excuse, but we get him thinking about how she has no idea abou his dual identity.. ahh, Silver Age DC. - It seems Broome likes to have heroes and villains use the newspaper to communicate with each other.. not sure that makes alot of sense to me. To be honest, it kinda sets the table for Legends (though it's A LOOONNG time for that)... makes it seem almost like a game, where regular people would be just as inclined to be annoyed at the hero as the villain.. especially when the bad guys are small time crooks like this. - Some really cool facial close ups.. one was even Cardy-like in it's use of shadowing...definitely the art is a big draw for me here.  Plot: B History: B (first Trickster) 'The Man Who Claimed the Earth' Plot: Iris cancels a date to go help Dr. Summers (from a couple issues ago) research the strange metal he found.. Barry is so jealous he uses his Flash-ness to stalk them.. turns out it's totally platonic, but the metal is important... It belongs to distant aliens that are the Greek Gods of myth.. they, just at that moment of course, re-discover Earth 'Zus' sends 'Po-siden' to investigate.. turns out they send a colony here millions of years ago, and lost track. Of course, the colony is us, and Po-siden goes about telling us to submit. He uses his 'Nucleo-Mastery' to do pretty much whatever he wants, but Flash outruns his blast, then circles the Earth and grabs him from behind. Without his trident he is just a regular guy, so in jail Flash makes him promise to go home, and he does. Back at Olympus, 'Zus' decides the colony has properly rebelled and gained independence, so no need to go back. The End! Notes: - I wonder how many times in the Silver Age we 'discover' the origin of man is really some alien or another? I feel like it's be 3 or 4 already. - Funny how times have changed... this story would be a 12 part event mega crossover today, with tie ins and the rest.. and could actually be pretty good. in 1960, it's a half of one issue. - Was Wonder Woman tied into the Greek Gods at this point in DC history? seems like she might be interested in this stuff.... - Funny how all the names of the Greek Gods are intentionally slightly off... except when Po-siden says Flash has the 'speed of Hermes'. Oops. History: D (not even Iris going on a date... what could have been, though..) Plot: C |
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Post by Cei-U! on May 18, 2017 15:10:02 GMT -5
That Flash story with the alien Olympians is usually considered non-canonical (as are earlier, similar Adam Strange and Rip Hunter stories) precisely because it is irreconcilable with the Greek gods seen in Wonder Woman and occasionally in Superman (continuity coordination among the Schwartz, Schiff, Kanigher, and Weisinger offices being, shall we say, less than total in those days).
Cei-U!
I summon the devious deities!
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 25, 2017 8:46:58 GMT -5
Flash #114
'The Big Freeze'
Broome/Infantino/Anderson
Plot: Barry drives Iris to a parole hearing for Len Snart (aka Captain Cold)... a rival reporter was trying to get him freed. Thanks to Flash's testimony, he doesn't get released, but instead breaks out a week later.
He heads right to Iris' house, where he asks her to marry him! (Didn't see that coming!) She give the standard response 'Not if you were the last man on Earth', and Cold sets out to do just that... he freezes all of Central City (after getting Flash out of town with a planted news story). Flash returns home to find the city encased in ice. He battle Captain Cold, who again uses 'cold mirages', then set him up for a real glacier (not real bright of Barry there... 'I'm sure the giant wave of ice is a mirage!'), but Flash vibrates out then 'air punches' him out. Luckily, Iris so him turn on his freeze-the-city thing, so they flick a switch and all is well.
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- I realize that over time you can't keep doing it, but I LOVE that bad guys back then actually went to jail, and stayed there a while! Sure, it limits your repeated use of villains, but it makes so much more sense.
- I guess it was lonely in prison.. first woman Cold sees he wants to marry? And the best insult Iris could come up with was 'creature'? Really?
- Very anticlimatic ending... Cold was out with a single punch.. thrown from a distance... I think this is the first time Flash uses a 'tornado punch' in that way.
- Barry's wearing his old-man-on-a-slow-sunday-drive hat heading to the prison.. oh, the irony.
Plot: C- (same old)
History C (2nd Captain Cold)
'King of the Beatniks'
Broome/Infantino/Giella
I LOVE the opening splash, clearly, the creative team are not fans of Beatniks, but man, that's some cool art:
Plot:
One of Wally's friends, Jimmy King, gets accused of cheating at school, and runs away before the teacher realizes her mistake. He goes to see his cousin, who is 'King of the Beatniks', a criminal gang posing as Beatniks to fool the cops(?). Wally, as Kid Flash, goes to talk him into coming back(saving a falling window washer on the way) , but finds out Jimmy is practically a prisoner, since he's 'seen too much'. Flash foils their big fur heist and gets Jimmy home for the track meet, where all is well.
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- Apparently Wally's not disciplined enough to run track and not reveal himself, ala Dash. I wonder if he's still on the basketball team...
- You can definitely see DC's conservatism here... all the 'nice' boys were suits and ties, after all.
- This is the 2nd time in a row a teacher is described as 'pretty and popular'.. I know it's the time, but that's really kinda offensive. Does it not matter if she's a good teacher? Or that she accused an honors student of cheating when she really just was a ditz? Not good.
Plot: B (nothing special, but a nice little story)
History: D- (nothing long term here)
Flash #115
'The Day Flash Weighed 1000 pounds'
Plot: Gorilla Grodd... still a prisoner, manages to make a pill to kill himself, but free his mind to take over another being. Now as 'Dawson' in Central City, he hooks up with a circus to train the chimps (since he speaks their language) and sets them upon stealing stuff.
Flash tracks him down and stops them, though, leading 'Dawson' to build a ray to make Flash weigh 1000 pounds.. he then uses the last bit of his mental powers to give him Amnesia, too, and gives him to the circus to make him a side show, freak.
Flash gets some of his memory back when he sees himself thin in a fun house mirror, and heads to a dehyrating plant to fix himself up.
He confronts Dawson, but still seems huge.. until he pops himself with a pin (the dehydration did the trick, he just uses balloons to make himself look huge still) and defeats Dawson. The end!
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Nice to sorta have Grodd back, though now he's 'dead'..when one can hop bodies, that's not a real barrier. I like that Barry did consider that there was a connection at the end, though of course he wasn't certain.
Clearly, this was a one-gag story (Fat Flash), but it worked well, and the visuals were awesomely fun.
Plot: A
History: C ('death' of Gorilla Grodd)
The back up is reviewed here, along with a few other Elongated Man stories.
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Post by MDG on May 25, 2017 12:03:49 GMT -5
Flash #114
'The Big Freeze'
Broome/Infantino/Anderson
I just want to point out what a beautifully designed and drawn page this is. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 25, 2017 12:23:01 GMT -5
I agree... I really wasn't into the first few Flash stories.. but this last set the art is like 5 notches about where it was before.. really great stuff.
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Post by fred2 on May 25, 2017 21:07:49 GMT -5
Flash #114
'The Big Freeze'
Broome/Infantino/Anderson
I just want to point out what a beautifully designed and drawn page this is. As I recall, most of the next Captain Cold stories of the silver age will involve him falling in love with someone. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 8, 2017 23:34:54 GMT -5
Got this one last week(well, you know, the new trades that is)... pretty excited: Showcase #22 Broome/Kane/Giella I've always loved this cover...  'SOS Green Lantern' Plot: Hal Jordan's origin is pretty well known... and It's been re-told and re-printed many times, will little change (they added Guy in at some point, I suppose). I couple things stuck me reading the original: - It's the Battery , not the ring, that is the focus... Abin Sur talks to it,not the ring, as they do now... the ring is more like a remote control to use the battery, while it has since evolved that the ring is the thing, and the battery is just a battery. - I feel like Abin Sur gets more alien in later renditions.. here he just looks like someone's Uncle who happens to be red. - I swear on the opening splash Hal's got a mustache. - The uniform isn't a ring construct (as it is for Kyle and others), but an actual uniform.. Hal takes it off Abin Sur's dead body? ugh. - No oath at first, either.  'Secret of the Flaming Spear' Plot: While Hal was becoming a super hero, Carol Ferris sent another test pilot out in their new space jet, and it's crashing. Green Lantern saves the day, and finds that saboteurs used 'radiation' to lock the controls. He tracks it back to its source and captures the bad guys, after overcoming some yellow things. - The 'radiation' bit could have easily come from 1963 Marvel.. they shoot a ray gun from far away and 'radiation' freezes the planes controls. - This one felt very golden age to me... with generic thugs as the bad guys, and the 'I just want the girl' line at the end. -- The bad guy looks suspiciously like Lex Luthor, and they make a Superman joke when GL enters the room... I wonder if it was meant to be him, just not allowed to say so because of editorial turf stuff? -- Carol in charge of the company in 1960? Well done, DC. I didn't realize that happened. -- There's the Oath.. no explanation how Hal knows it, or why there's an English version that rhymes, or anything.  'Menace of the Runaway Missile' Plot: Hal gets shut down by Carol again, as she insists on not dating while running the company. He puts the moves on as Green Lantern instead, but has to leave suddently to stop a missile... it's a yellow one, of course, but he gets around it by grabbing the red tip with a net. Turns out the bad guy is a scientist that wanted to blow up the governments Hydrogen power program so his would finish first. Hal finds a 'plane spotter' that saw the missile lift off, and takes the guy out. The end! - First ring construct! the other story he just blasted stuff. And passed through a wall. This time he goes all Firestorm and turns a metal Battering Ram into water. It is fun watching how that stuff developed. - Hal's kinda stalker-y here... Carol tells him to leave her alone, and he walks into her office and grabs her? really? Call HR! Never mind the going to a party as Green Lantern thing... but then they have to set up the whole 'girlfriend likes the superhero id better' thing they have going in just about every comic at this time. - Not that it matters, but I noticed that sometimes Carol's office has orange walls, and sometimes purple. Anyone what to take a shot at explaining that one? Plot: B (I love GL's origin, but the others are pretty by the numbers) History: A+ (first Silver Age Green Lantern) |
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