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Post by Nowhere Man on Jun 3, 2014 21:27:45 GMT -5
I read Calvin and Hobbes sporadically when it was originally being published. It ended a year before I graduated high school, so I was never a regular reader...to my great shame. (I was a very irregular reading of comic strips.) The complete set is in my wish list at instocktrades. I'm looking forward to finally reading it all.
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Post by Jasoomian on Jun 4, 2014 18:59:04 GMT -5
Why is Calvin grown up but not Suzie? I love this pic.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jun 4, 2014 19:05:09 GMT -5
July/August/September 1986
Now, we really get into some really great stuff here. We actually get some story arcs in this time frame.
One of my favorite repeating arcs is the annual family vacation. They usually camp put but this time they stay in a cabin. Calvin's dad absolutely loves it while everyone else is completely miserable for the 2 weeks. I think the best strip from this is when Calvin catches a fish and is all excited until his dad describes cleaning it. Calvin happily settles for grilled cheese for dinner.
Calvin also takes swimming lessons this time and his teacher is Rosalyn. The Calvin and Rosalyn dynamic is always great.
We have some shorter arcs where Calvin tries to freeze his face a certain way, his evil bike makes an appearance and we end on a great series where Hobbes is trying to be cool with Calvin.
Top 5 from here:
Something under the bed is drooling.
Calvin convinces his mom that they need to go out for pizza.
Calvin pretends he's invisible and his mom wants to know why he's at the cookie jar naked.
A water fight between Calvin and Hobbes escalates.
Calvin and Hobbes go to the beach and last for about 5 seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 19:07:31 GMT -5
Why is Calvin grown up but not Suzie? I love this pic. That's his daughter, he gave her Hobbes.
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Post by Jasoomian on Jun 4, 2014 19:20:30 GMT -5
Well, she takes after her mother.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jun 4, 2014 19:21:08 GMT -5
It's out a bit but I read the 2 week arc where Calvin and Hobbes find the injured baby racoon that later dies at lunch today. I always forget about this story and it always blindsides me by how sad it is. I think this is probably the most emotional thing Watterson did in the series.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 20:05:41 GMT -5
It's been so long since I've read any Calvin and Hobbes that I completely forgot about Suzie.
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Post by Pharozonk on Jun 4, 2014 20:30:09 GMT -5
Why is Calvin grown up but not Suzie? I love this pic. That's supposed to be Calvin and Suzie's daughter. It's why she has blonde hair, but Suzie's classic haircut.
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 8, 2014 3:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 4:06:53 GMT -5
That was pretty frickin' amazing. -M
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Post by maddog1981 on Jun 8, 2014 7:23:00 GMT -5
October/November/December 1986
The first year is in the books of Calvin and Hobbes. Year 2 is where we really see Calvin and Hobbes become awesome.
Calvin is an onion in the school play. He has difficulty learning his lines and eventually gets his zipper stuck during the show and causes problems. We get another Rosalyn the babysitter storyline here. This one is pretty uneventful vs. other times they've clashed over the years. Calvin's mom also gets sick and Calvin tries to help take care of her. Nothing too amazing or memorable from those arcs but you can really see the characters are alive and vibrant at this point in the comic strip. I'm really looking forward to 1987 as things should be firing on all cylinders.
Top 5 strips from this time:
Calvin watches a Godzilla movie and spits water on his mom and gets chased back to the bath tub.
Calvin pretends he's a dinosaur, attacks a sleeping Hobbes and gets chased.
Calvin's dad explains how they determine how much weight a bridge can hold.
Calvin pretends to has rabies. His mom doesn't fall for it so he decides he'll bite his dad first to try and trick him.
Hobbes does a cannon ball into the tub and they have a water fall going down the stairs.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 8, 2014 12:49:53 GMT -5
I love this pic. This is where I find myself in a small minority again. I've never seen this pic before, and it wrenches me to the gut. It's like the ending to Winnie the Pooh (the real one), where Christopher Robin says goodbye. I find myself screaming at Christopher Robin "No! Don't do it! It's cruel! There is no rule that you have to get rid of stuff you liked as a kid - you can both grow and change together! Why must you drop your friends? You really think you have outgrown Winnie the Pooh? That you are going on to create greater things? Hello? People only remember you because of that bear, you idiot! And now you break his heart? You think bears can't become adults?" and other such outbursts. Giving the bear to the next generation bugs me on so many levels. Why can't the bear grow up too? Why can't the next generation be creative - must they be forever in your shadow? Admittedly this thought is made worse by the Disney link. Disney is famous for destroying creativity: taking from the public domain and then working to stop others doing the same, demonising those who create their own ideas rather than paying for mass produced corporate ideas (e.g. Sid in Toy Story). Then there is the much bigger idea, that I reject, that childhood has bad parts that must be put away instead of developed (granted the idea comes from 1 Corinthians 13, but don't get me started on Paul). I want a world where we do not throw away our friends when we grow up, a world where we find new depths in our childhood friends rather than discarding them, a world where we encourage children to find their own way rather than repeat out own past, a world where childhood is not a stage to abandon and start again, but a strong foundation for continued growth. tl;dr That picture makes me sad.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jun 8, 2014 21:06:09 GMT -5
I see it that Calvin will always keep Hobbes. Hobbes will always be in a closet somewhere or kept nearby. But when Calvin is an adult he won't need Hobbes as a friend anymore. He will still love and cherish Hobbes but he won't have that same imagination to bring him to life anymore. Really, what Calvin is doing in that painting there is true love for his friend. He's passing Hobbes down to his daughter and letting Hobbes live again. You just don't need those things in the same way. I still have my Transformers from when I was a kid but they are lifeless toys now, not the tools of imagination that they were to me as a child.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 9, 2014 1:03:46 GMT -5
Fair point. I wonder if my reaction is an autistic thing. I was diagnosed a couple of years ago. The interviews took several days (with both my parents present!) and one of the key questions was how I played with toys. I never role played toys: I never acted out stuff, I saw toys as something to explore. I see toys and stories the same way I see the fields outside my window - as something that never gets old. As an adult I see the grass and flowers in a different way, but they are just as interesting as ever. I find the idea of tools for imagination alien to me. I see them as fascinating in their own right, and that never gets old. The first toys I remember wanting were "Weebles" - egg-like characters with weighted bases so they can't fall over. I never gave them names or role played anything, I just loved their elegance. That never gets old : I feel the same way now, except I now had added appreciation for the physics and minimalism. It bothered me that later versions had colour added to the clothes or were larger - the colour added nothing, and therefore reduced their efficiency, showing that Hasbro never understood what they had I am the same with comics: it probably explains why I love to study the Fantastic Four, and find endless depth, whereas others seem happy to just take the surface reading and move on to some other title. In a way I never grew up. I could spend my whole life exploring the first things I ever looked at. I think this is why I never really grew up and had a career. I see others rush into things and focus on adult interests, and they have friends and money, they fit in, and I'm still where I was as a child - I can't understand why people would abandon their first discoveries without seeing what they have. In a way I admire them they must be so clever to be able to do so many things, when I still sit here and stare out of the window, as awe-struck as ever by a blade of grass or the fact that eyes can see. Information overload is perhaps the defining feature of autism. I see so much. I notice so much, nothing is ever boring except change. Why change when there is so much undiscovered? Why discard a childhood idea just when we are about to learn something useful? I see the normal "growing up" as horribly inefficient and superficial. Yet on the other hand, in terms of the normal fast paced world of people, I am very slow and stuck at the start. I obsess endlessly over details. Neuro typical people miss the details and move on. In most situations being neuro typical is more efficient. But sometimes there is value in stopping and looking deeper. Neither is "right", the are just different ways of thinking. This also explains my fascination with reasons for things (see my web site AnswersAnswers.com/ ) and why I like my art to be very detailed (I create portaits using fractals). And why I tend to write very long replies when others have the gift of brevity.
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Post by Jasoomian on Jun 10, 2014 14:46:14 GMT -5
There's a documentary on Netflix called "Dear Mr. Waterson" about Calvin & Hobbes. I watched the first ten minutes or so and it was pretty tedious. Just a series of talking heads saying that they really liked reading Calvin & Hobbes. Seth Green was the only recognizable person of them.
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