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Post by wickedmountain on Apr 21, 2015 14:21:14 GMT -5
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 21, 2015 19:23:13 GMT -5
Can't wait !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 22:20:02 GMT -5
I hope this works out for them. One of these days the super-hero movie bubble is going to burst. Marvel Studios has the edge of a now proven track record of successful well-received movies and they were the trend setter not the followers. DC/WB has an edge in recognizable iconic characters. Valiant has neither of these, so if the bubble is going to burst, they are a prime candidate for it to be them. I hope not. They have some good characters, but they don't have the built in advantages DC/Marvel does. So fingers crossed.
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Post by dupersuper on Apr 22, 2015 19:39:38 GMT -5
Just what the world needs: more super hero/comic book movies! I know that sounds sarcastic. It was not.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 22, 2015 19:57:02 GMT -5
Bloodshot lends itself ridiculously well to film. Ex-Vietnam vet with super strength, endurance, agility, healing, and the ability to communicate with machines, fighting to learn his true past after discovering everything he's been told is a lie.
Harbinger is just a GREAT property that's long overdue for larger exposure, and a lot of 30-somethings remember it fondly from the comic book boom heyday in the early 1990s too.
Both have the potential to be great, and neither is going to resemble what's already been done.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 12:03:45 GMT -5
This thread has taken me by surprise to see Valiant into the film making era - starting out with Harbinger, Bloodshot, and etc. I hope that they do well and I wouldn't mind seeing any of these films when they do come out. I would welcome this in open arms and I hope that they do well in theaters everywhere.
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 24, 2015 10:43:23 GMT -5
Yes, it seems there are a lot of superhero movies, but, there's also an audience for them.
This could elevate Valiant pretty well, even with one solid hit.
Look what Hellboy did.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 24, 2015 21:18:45 GMT -5
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 24, 2015 22:13:32 GMT -5
I wasn't aware of that.
Crazy talk.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 22:32:02 GMT -5
The heck with Hellboy, give me Del Toro doing At the Mountains of Madness!!!!! (though I would love a Hellboy III...)
But yeah, this is what I fear for the Valiant movies-as good as they are, they might not have enough pop culture cache to succeed in a box office, and they may be at the mercy of what opens the same weekend or in the weeks afterwards-if they shoot for a May release they have to compete with Marvel for a FCBD relese and probably some other blockbuster franchise later in the month, so they have a small window for success there, and the later into summer you go, usually the smaller your window gets...if you look for a non-summer release, you get a glut of big name blockbusters for Thanksgiving and X-Mas and the end of the year Oscar chumfest, and the rest of the year is pretty slim pickings for box office, especially for blockbuster type movies. Disney (with Marvel and Star Wars) and WB (with DC) has most of those key dates staked out already through 2020, and other existing or reemerging franchises (Star Trek, Terminator, etc.) are filling in where they can already. Open the wrong weekend and it's the kiss of death, because that's where the bulk of your box office comes from. As much as I would like to see these movies do well, they are facing an uphill battle in terms of room on the box office schedule and public visibility of the properties beyond the hardcore audience.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 25, 2015 8:40:14 GMT -5
I still think Bloodshot has the potential to appeal to a non comic-loving audience as an action film, but that would run contrary to the marketing involved in building a film universe.
On the other hand, if they play off of viewer fatigue -- folks getting tired of the standard fare coming out of Warner and Marvel, that might build an appeal. Valiant has earned it's readership all along by being the "un-cola," winning over folks who are no longer excited by the big two rather than trying to run alongside them.
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 5, 2015 12:39:59 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a sad state that there isn't room for Hellboy at the Box office, though I think both would have done better if they shot for an October date and billed them as horror movies out in time for Halloween instead of Summer Blockbusters. |
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