shaxper
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Post by shaxper on May 25, 2015 20:17:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:11:25 GMT -5
Arnold at 67, playing Conan is got to be the silliest thing that I ever heard in my life.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 23:14:08 GMT -5
Well I hate to point this out...but the article is from 2012 and says the goal was to have the movie in theaters by summer 2014...as it is May 2015, I think this one may have died in pre-production hell.
Arnie as an elder King Conan in a film that introduces the son of Conan to carry the franchise is not as preposterous as it seems, which is what Parasox hoped to do after the 2011 film tanked with the mass public and Conan die-hards, but it might stray farther afield form Howard's vision than the first film did. Paradox wants to make a Conan movie that works but ignores or does not trust the Howard material that the fans are clamoring for. They bought the Conan rights without understanding the material they had, thinking Arnie not Howard's material was the quintessential Conan, and have made every possible mistake they could in every attempt to use the properties since they acquired it (yes their first attempt was the Kevin Sorbo Kull film). I an a huge Howard and Conan fan, but I continue to hope Paradox continues to fail miserably so they either go under or sell off the rights to someone who knows what the heck they are doing and trusts the source material.
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Post by shaxper on May 26, 2015 5:05:50 GMT -5
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Post by Pharozonk on May 26, 2015 7:28:48 GMT -5
Arnold at 67, playing Conan is got to be the silliest thing that I ever heard in my life. Sillier than him playing T-800 Terminator again versus the younger version of himself in the new Terminator movie?  |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 26, 2015 11:50:09 GMT -5
I really don't get why they feel they have to re-invent the wheel. There are a number of stories that would be brilliant... you could do an 'origin' movie of sorts, do some big battle stuff, then lead into 'Frost Giant's Daughter'. You could do the Belit saga.. that'd be about movie length. You could probably make Tower of the Elephant movie length. Any of those could serve as a great entry point.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 14:45:43 GMT -5
Here's one from CBR today... CBR storyAnd it outlines the basic problem with Paradox and the people they hire-their only impressions of Conan and his world are form the '82 movie and the Frazetta paintings, not the actual Howard (or even de Camp and Carter) Conan stories. As much as I adore the Frazetta Conan stuff, it is a step away from how Howard describes Conan's appearance, and doesn't capture the intelligence and cunning of the character, just the brutality. And that's what they are shooting for in the movies, the brutality. Yes, Howard's Conan was brutal when necessary, but it was not the only facet of the character, not even the central one. Paradox doesn't get that. The people the people they hire to make movies of the properties they own don't get that. Paradox never will. The don't value the material they own, they value the movie IP and the brand, not the content. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 23:20:21 GMT -5
So apparently earlier this year Paradox Entertainment sold the rights to the Howard library to Cabinet Holdings (a new company run by former Paradox CEO Frederick Malberg. And part of the hold up of the Legend of Conan was a lawsuit by old pals Styan Lee Media claiming they still owned the rights to COnan even though Marvel had let them go in '97 because they had never let them laspe (nevermind they didn't really exist in '97 I don't think) and also Universal reconsidering Arnie's box office appeal and hinting they were waiting to see how Terminator Genysis did at the box office before deciding whether to greenlight this sequel (nd it did not do well, so what that bodes I don't know.
There is an interesting overview of the whole Paradox/Cabinet saga done by Midnight Edge seen here...
I think the interviewee is smoking a crack pipe dream with his hopes about Marvel Studios at the end of this though...
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