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Post by Confessor on Apr 10, 2017 13:14:14 GMT -5
Mjolnir is not indestructible, it having been destroyed/damaged multiple times. The Asgardian Destroyer sliced it in half in Journey Into Mystery #118 (July 1965); with it being repaired Journey Into Mystery #120 (Sept. 1965), The Molecule Man broke the atomic bonds of the hammer and essentially reducing it to its separate molecular components in Avengers#215 (Jan. 1982) and restored in Avengers#216 (Feb. 1982). Thor himself shattered the hammer after channeling energy through it firing upon the Celestial Exitar trying to stop him in Thor #388 (Feb. 1988) and restored by the Celestials in Thor #389 (Mar. 1988). Dark God Perrikus cuts Mjolnir in half with his mystical scythe in Thor vol. 2, #11 (May 1999) and restored Thor vol. 2, #11 (June 1999). The last time the hammer was shattered when striking with other uru weapons of the Storm Giants causing an atomic explosion in Thor vol. 2, #80 (Aug. 2004). I'm not a Thor fan at all and couldn't really care less about his 'ammer, but this is some impressive knowledge, brutalis.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 10, 2017 13:18:02 GMT -5
I have friend who is Thor crazy. I am into Mythology so Thor is a fave for me. I had this listing handy on my computer because a few months ago my friend was trying to figure out himself how many times the old hammer had been broken. We both browsed through our collections coming up with the list. Both of us have most of the classic Thor runs but both of us kind of dropped off the newer stuff and we are only just now beginning to pick up the newer trades.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 14, 2017 20:55:57 GMT -5
Was Strange really as big of an egotistical dick before his accident in the comics as he is in the movie?
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 14, 2017 21:16:48 GMT -5
Was Strange really as big of an egotistical dick before his accident in the comics as he is in the movie? Yup. Maybe even a little worse. Cei-U! I summon the money-grubbing medical mercenary!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 21:20:03 GMT -5
Was Strange really as big of an egotistical dick before his accident in the comics as he is in the movie? In modern retellings yes. I don't remember if that was emphasized in the early Strange Tales issues.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 14, 2017 23:38:43 GMT -5
Was Strange really as big of an egotistical dick before his accident in the comics as he is in the movie? In modern retellings yes. I don't remember if that was emphasized in the early Strange Tales issues. It was to the extent it could be, given the super short length of the stories.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 15, 2017 5:37:23 GMT -5
Yeah, he was a jerk
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 15, 2017 9:26:44 GMT -5
Wow he was. I felt like they were laying it on pretty thick in the movie because of how he is now. I never read any pre Sorcerer stories about him. Man what a conceited jerk.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 15, 2017 10:37:25 GMT -5
Wow he was. I felt like they were laying it on pretty thick in the movie because of how he is now. I never read any pre Sorcerer stories about him. Man what a conceited jerk. Yeah, he was a conceited jerk, but, of course, that's the whole point of the lesson that life meted out to him, with the car accident and subsequently becoming the Sorcerer Supreme. It's a highly moralistic tale, even by Silver Age Marvel standards.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 15, 2017 10:50:33 GMT -5
Wow he was. I felt like they were laying it on pretty thick in the movie because of how he is now. I never read any pre Sorcerer stories about him. Man what a conceited jerk. Yeah, he was a conceited jerk, but, of course, that's the whole point of the lesson that life meted out to him, with the car accident and subsequently becoming the Sorcerer Supreme. It's a highly moralistic tale, even by Silver Age Marvel standards. That was really well done in the movie. I was hoping someone would punch him in the face 5 minutes into it. And then he comes out in the end being the Sorcerer Supreme. Though the rest of the movie was pretty meh. It played like a CGI martial arts action film.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 15, 2017 11:03:11 GMT -5
Yeah, he was a conceited jerk, but, of course, that's the whole point of the lesson that life meted out to him, with the car accident and subsequently becoming the Sorcerer Supreme. It's a highly moralistic tale, even by Silver Age Marvel standards. That was really well done in the movie. I was hoping someone would punch him in the face 5 minutes into it. And then he comes out in the end being the Sorcerer Supreme. Though the rest of the movie was pretty meh. It played like a CGI martial arts action film. When I watched the film at the cinema, I really enjoyed it while it was playing. But over the following days I began to pick holes in it. As I've gotten further and further away from it, I've rated the film less and less highly. I wasn't mad keen on them making Strange a martial artist or the addition of sling rings or the total lack of any Strange-esque spell casting dialogue, such as "By the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth" etc. Apparently, Strange does engage in martial arts in some of the more recent comics, but the Dr. Strange I know and love -- everything from the Ditko era, right up to and including the Steve Englehart run from the mid-70s -- is not a physical combatant at all.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 15, 2017 11:22:13 GMT -5
That was really well done in the movie. I was hoping someone would punch him in the face 5 minutes into it. And then he comes out in the end being the Sorcerer Supreme. Though the rest of the movie was pretty meh. It played like a CGI martial arts action film. When I watched the film at the cinema, I really enjoyed it while it was playing. But over the following days I began to pick holes in it. As I've gotten further and further away from it, I've rated the film less and less highly. I wasn't mad keen on them making Strange a martial artist or the addition of sling rings or the total lack of any Strange-esque spell casting dialogue, such as "By the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth" etc. Apparently, Strange does engage in martial arts in some of the more recent comics, but the Dr. Strange I know and love -- everything from the Ditko era, right up to and including the Steve Englehart run from the mid-70s -- is not a physical combatant at all. I could agree more on all your points. I did like the special effects used to visually show the spells but outside of that nothing seemed Strange about it from the Marvel Premiere and first Strange on going I've read. I think in this case "modernizing" Strange wasn't a good idea. Strange needs to be a mystery and not always explained with avatars, tools, like sling rings and martial arts. He's a mystic. That's the battles he does fight. I don't know if it was the movies intention but I got a laugh out of Drammamu's frustration in his last stand against Strange. I'm sure it was suppose to be serious but it sounded like 6 year old throwing a tantrum. :-)
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 15, 2017 13:13:46 GMT -5
That was really well done in the movie. I was hoping someone would punch him in the face 5 minutes into it. And then he comes out in the end being the Sorcerer Supreme. Though the rest of the movie was pretty meh. It played like a CGI martial arts action film. When I watched the film at the cinema, I really enjoyed it while it was playing. But over the following days I began to pick holes in it. ... That's been my reaction to most of the Marvel films: fine while watching, pretty forgettable afterward. To be fair, that seems like the majority of modern film, to me. The post original Star Wars films are the same way (prequels and new). Part of it is the attention span of the editing. I liked the premise of Rogue One, like a lot of the scenes; but, the constant jumping from planet to planet and the short time spent on character scenes just held me back from really getting into it. It's modelled on the old 60s war/action films, especially the commando movies, like Guns of Navarone, Where Eagles Dare and The Dirty Dozen. However, those movies took more time with the characters to get you to care about them, before throwing them into danger. It elevated the suspense and made you more committed to what happens to them. Cap and Iron Man have been the most engaging segments of the Marvel film franchise and Avengers probably the least, for me (well, Incredible Hulk; but, the Avengers films don't exactly satisfy, either). They are like an average Avengers issue not done by an Engelhart, a Shooter, or a Thomas: loud fights, a little banter, fairly cookie cutter. Since (and including) Dark Knight, the DC films are so joyless I can't be bothered. Batman Begins was mostly satisfying ( a few minor, minor issues). I just wish Bruce Timm and the other guys were doing the DC movies, as they get the story elements that make people like and care about these characters. Dr Strange was always a character I was lukewarm to, apart from visuals. Magic characters without a consistent set of rules usually don't work for me, which covers most of the comic book magical characters. Zatanna at least had to speak her spells (backwards); so, there is a built in weakness (and mechanism for the old standby damsel-in-distress scenes). Mostly though, she got by on a sexy costume, drawn by artists who did sexy women.
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Post by MWGallaher on Apr 25, 2017 8:13:56 GMT -5
So I'm reading this... ...and suddenly it occurs to me that I don't recall seeing the "Enemy Ace" logo used on the cover. Flipping through the covers reprinted in this volume, I don't see it. Checking out the "Enemy Ace: War Idyll" miniseries...nope, not used there. It seems really weird that DC would commission a new logo for this volume, when most of the other Showcase collections used familiar, classic logos (exceptions include The War That Time Forgot and Tales of the Great Disaster, which didn't have established logos as far as I know). It's also not an especially good logo for this character, in my opinion--it looks too futuristic for a comic set 100 years ago, and the "C" doesn't seem to match, with its skinny stems. So my question is: Is this an "Enemy Ace" logo that was used somewhere and I just missed it? It's a variant on the logo used for the Enemy Ace issue of Showcase (#57-58) but it looks to have been created specifically for the collection (unless *I* missed its use somewhere). Cei-U! I summon the uncertainty! Once I got toward the end of the collection, I finally spotted this logo: it was used once in the first issue of Men Of War. Very strange that they would take the least-used, least appropriate logo from a brief run by the least-regarded artist to ever draw the series (Ed Davis?!) and hence probably also the least-loved Enemy Ace story. I guess it makes more sense than commissioning a new one. Maybe that was the first one they had in their files of logos and so the production elf just grabbed it and slapped it on there, but wouldn't something like this been much better:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 12:42:49 GMT -5
What is the difference between Young Justice & Teen Titans?
In comics I see YJ as a more humorous version of the TT. On TV I feel YJ is the more serious version of the TT.
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