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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 12, 2017 15:30:10 GMT -5
Crackerjack is a sort of Spider-Man/Daredevil analogue, in that he is a wisecracking swashbuckler, swinging from rooftops. I always got a Hawkeye vibe from Crackerjack. Jack-in-the-Box would be the Spider-Man analogue. I always saw Crackerjack as more Green Arrow than Hawkeye, with Quarrel as the Black Canary analogue (though with GA's archery skills). Cei-U! I summon the Bouncing Beatnik!
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 12, 2017 22:09:40 GMT -5
Crackerjack is a sort of Spider-Man/Daredevil analogue, in that he is a wisecracking swashbuckler, swinging from rooftops. I always got a Hawkeye vibe from Crackerjack. Jack-in-the-Box would be the Spider-Man analogue. Crackerjack is very much the old pre-Frank Miller Daredevil, from the Gene Colan era. DD was swinging along buildings, dropping wisecracks and acting flamboyantly. That's Crackerjack. Spidey was very much that, too, though it depended on the story. He was more like that in marvel team-Up. really, I see more old-school Daredevil than Spider-Man; but, DD borrowed much from Spidey. I would concede Hawkeye's personality, to a certain extent, though not as much as DD. Jack-in-the Box is a Spider-Man analogue, in that Jack-in-the-Box is the trickster hero archetype, which Spidey is the most prominent. Like I say, Astro City is about the archetypes, but emphasizing the people inhabiting those archetypes. The Samaritan is the superbeing archetype, from the future, rather than an alien world. Winged Victory is the mythical female superbeing archetype, as exemplified by Wonder Woman. The Confessor is the urban vigilante, ala Batman. Crackerjack is the brash swashbuckler, Jack-in-the-Box the trickster. Blue Knight is the violent armed vigilante. The First Family are the scientific explorer group, Silver Agent the white knight (which also includes Captain America, as he is a knight serving the American ideal, right down to the shield and chainmail). Steeljack is the criminal trying to go straight, Junkman the trickster villain. The Hanged Man is the mystical agent, Mordecai Chalk is the monster-hunter, Old Soldier is the mystical embodiment of an idea or philosophy.
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Post by sabongero on Oct 13, 2017 13:14:13 GMT -5
I just have a question fellow CCF members. If you were going to purchase a complete run of Sub-Mariner or a complete run of Aquaman which one would you choose? Are there any pros and cons in the stories between these two from the 1960's to the 1980's ?
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 13, 2017 14:20:42 GMT -5
I just have a question fellow CCF members. If you were going to purchase a complete run of Sub-Mariner or a complete run of Aquaman which one would you choose? Are there any pros and cons in the stories between these two from the 1960's to the 1980's ? I think there are two key points I would unhesitatingly choose Aquaman: the consistently outstanding artwork of Nick Cardy (1- 39) and Jim Aparo (40-56), from which any title benefits, but also for the quality of the stories. Aquaman was a very different Silver Age character; he was married (admittedly, like Hawkman, but he was the only other one) and a father; his stories were among the first / few at DC to continue over several issues, like his courtship of and marriage to Mera and the the quest for the abducted Mera while a revolution is brewing in Atlantis; his frequent run-ins with his villainous half-brother Orm; the murder of his baby son; a black super-villain (Black Manta) whose race is incidental to his villainy; Steve Skeates' penchant for Easter eggs, satire and commentary on ecology, politics in his generally excellent stories; Aquaman 56 ("The Creature Who Devoured Detroit") a little meta-super-hero film noir that pre-dates Watchmen by about 16 years and was a superb swan song for a comic suddenly and unjustly cancelled. I could go on, but never did Cardy or Aparo make believing in an undersea hero difficult to accept (even while Bob Haney was at the controls) and the world under the seas was as endlessly fascinating as Conan's Hyborian world.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 14:52:20 GMT -5
sabongero Aquaman over Namor.
As Prince Hal posts so eloquently above Aquaman was more "developed" as a character IMO. Namor was more one dimensional overall. Also I found Sub-Mariner more depressing to binge read compared to Aquaman. Also don't forget the Aquaman stories in Adventure Comics & World's Finest in addition to his solo series. The ones in Adventure are some of my favorite Aquaman stories.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 20:07:24 GMT -5
I just saw this book listed as a new arrival at our public library... has anyone read it or is familiar with it or with Tucker Reed the author? If so, worth checking out or a rehash of stuff most folks already know? -M
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 17, 2017 21:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 21:54:18 GMT -5
Welp I requested it from the library, so we will see.
-M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 17, 2017 22:34:25 GMT -5
I haven't read it either. But the reviews on Goodreads seem positive. Let me know.
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Post by MDG on Oct 18, 2017 6:25:56 GMT -5
If it's less about books and characters and more about the business, distributors, and acquisitions, I'd like to read it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 8:49:40 GMT -5
I just have a question fellow CCF members. If you were going to purchase a complete run of Sub-Mariner or a complete run of Aquaman which one would you choose? Are there any pros and cons in the stories between these two from the 1960's to the 1980's ? Aquaman over Sub-Mariner easy. For other exposure ... Superman and Aquaman Hour of Adventure, Super Friends, Batman Brave and the Bold, and Filmation Adventures ... He had his own cartoon in the 60's ... Super Friends Later, and had more exposure than Sub Mariner. Prince Hal said it better.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 18, 2017 10:14:09 GMT -5
AAA and Sub-mariner was basically irrelevant by the sixties, imo. Lee and Kirby's humorless silver age reboot damaged the character beyond repair - or at least till Roy Thomas and Bill Everett himself got around to fixing him. But from the mid seventies forward the Godawful early sixties version was the one that stuck.
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Post by Jesse on Oct 18, 2017 11:26:53 GMT -5
Ok, I could probably google this for the answer, but since I am here...didn't Mary Jane give birth to Peter Parker's baby some years back and it was thought to be dead, but was stolen? So is there a baby, where is it? Answer: OMD. Only Mephisto & Joe Quesada know where little May is. Anna May Parker is currently appearing in Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows and goes by the name Spiderling in an alternate Universe where OMD never happened. I mentioned in another thread I'm curious what Mephisto's interest in May actually is and I think there could be an interesting story there.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 22, 2017 8:43:47 GMT -5
Does Alan Moore own LOEG, or does DC have the rights to it?
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Post by hondobrode on Oct 22, 2017 9:06:16 GMT -5
Moore owns the rights.
After the initial 6 issue LOEG, he took the property to Top Shelf and Knockabout.
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