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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 20, 2015 12:38:12 GMT -5
>sigh<I was thinking you meant these guys...
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 20, 2015 12:53:39 GMT -5
For completely silly reasons, I'm trying to find DC Comics that take place during, or otherwise refer to, the Great Chicago Fire of 1871. So far I've got: Wonder Woman #116 (August 1960) Superboy #111 (March 1964) Detective Comics #432 (February 1973) Anyone know of any others? "The Chicago Fire" is listed in the GCD in Real Fact Comics #8.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 20, 2015 14:10:58 GMT -5
For completely silly reasons, I'm trying to find DC Comics that take place during, or otherwise refer to, the Great Chicago Fire of 1871. So far I've got: Wonder Woman #116 (August 1960) Superboy #111 (March 1964) Detective Comics #432 (February 1973) Anyone know of any others?
Superman witnesses part of the fire in Superman 142, but the reference lasts for all of one panel. Which may be for the best since it prevented him from learning that it was actually Krypto who started the fire as per Superboy 111.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 20, 2015 14:57:12 GMT -5
Are all the 100 page DC Spectaculars from the 70s reprint material or do some of them contain original content? The first batch of Super-Specs were all-reprints. Like Superman #252. And I have a Flash Super-Spec that's all reprints.
Then there was original materiel mixed in most of the time. I have five or six issues of Detective Comics and all of them contain one original Batman story and a chapter of the classic Manhunter story by Goodwin and Simonson.
Superman Family would have one story - Supergirl, Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane alternated in the "original story" slot - while the rest of the issue was Superman Family reprints.
I love the Super-Specs! I have a Batman Super-Spec that I've had since it was only a few years old that is one of my favorite comic books. A crazy crazy original Penguin story, the insane 1940s Joker story titled "Rackety Rax Racket" (wherein Robin has to buy a doll with pennies to keep the Joker from killing Batman), an Ally Babble story, "Die Small, Die Big" (my favorite New Look story ever) and another New Look tale with gorgeous art by Gil Kane.
I didn't start buying comics until shortly after the Super-Specs were discontinued but I loved finding them in used-book stores. Most comics in those places were two for 25 cents, but the Super-Specs would usually have a little white tag on the corner marked 25 cents. And the guy who ran the place never heard of a comic-book bag.
Many of the regular titles went to the 100 page format with a lead off new story, including Brave & Bold, Justice League, Superboy, Batman, Detective, Superman Family, and others. Mike's Amazing World of DC has a good summary of the 100 pagers as well as a list of all of them (100 page super-spec guide). Also covers the 80 pagers, 52 pagers, etc.
I'm gradually accumulating all of the original series (which was numbered starting with DC-4 through DC-22). I just found Flash #214 (aka DC-11) this weekend at a flea market for $2, though it was in poor condition (beat up cover and missing back cover). I have about 3 more of the super-hero focused ones to go, then maybe I'll go for the war, horror, romance, & Tarzan ones.
So far I have DC-6, DC-11 through DC-15, DC-17, DC-18, DC-19 through DC-22.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 20, 2015 15:32:27 GMT -5
Mostly they were 30 (or so) pages of new material and the rest of the book were reprints. This made DC Fans of the time mad. "WHY WOULD YOU PRINT 20 PAGES OF PRIME ALEX TOTH!!! IT IS A DIRTY REPRINT! YOU ARE DEPRIVING ME OF NEW GERRY CONWAY AND ALEX SAVUIK!" Not sure who you were talking to in the early 70's, or if you were around then, but I loved them. New and old for a great price. And, judging by how many they put out, I'd say a lot of the other fans loved them too.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 20, 2015 15:49:25 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys did - we tend to be a historically minded bunch in general. But I definitely get the idea from letter pages and editorial comments that a lot of fans really did not like the reprints. I keep seeing "No Reprints" splashed like this was some huge plus - and instead, you get regular DC books from the '70s, where the crap to cream ratio for new material definitely favored the former. (Maybe the '50s were worse, and I'm not super happy with what they're doing right now, but DC in the'40s, '60s, 80s, 90s, and 00s - all of 'em were quite a bit higher average-quality-wise.)
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 20, 2015 15:59:39 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I'm sure you guys did - we tend to be a historically minded bunch in general. But I definitely get the idea from letter pages and editorial comments that a lot of fans really did not like the reprints. I keep seeing "No Reprints" splashed like this was some huge plus - and instead, you get regular DC books from the '70s, where the crap to cream ratio for new material definitely favored the former. (Maybe the '50s were worse, and I'm not super happy with what they're doing right now, but DC in the'40s, '60s, 80s, 90s, and 00s - all of 'em were quite a bit higher average-quality-wise.) There may have been complaints in the letters pages, etc, but by my count they put out 115 of the 100 pagers in less than 4 years (June 71 to March 75). My guess is that they wouldn't have kept making them if people (judging by the circulation figures of the times, probably hundreds of thousands of people) weren't buying them.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 20, 2015 17:23:18 GMT -5
This question comes from another message board, one not devoted to comics (wickedmountain knows the one I mean). _________________________________________________________________________________________________
Old Fantastic Four comic book
It may have been a Galactus encounter.......or maybe not.
Anyhow, they are facing off some space alien (looked like a shaggy haired dressed ape), who, among other things, has lived in the cores of stars. At one point in the battle, the Torch is facing him off. The alien throws a force bolt at the torch and instead of being knocked down, the Torch increases his flame and absorbs the blast.
Crystal is involved and she is cowering around the corner, thinking how "Johnny is glowing like a living star.".
The Torch takes the absorbed energy, tries to throw it against the alien, but the alien comments how it was a nice try but since he has lived in the core of stars, he is use to such things. The Torch has to retreat as the alien then starts to radiate what might be described as white fusion.
Was probably back in the 80's or even the 70's. Anyone know the issue or the name of the alien? ___________________________________________________________________________________________________
The description seems familiar but I haven't been able to place it. Does anyone recognize it?
Paging tolworthy...
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Post by Farrar on Jul 20, 2015 17:31:19 GMT -5
This question comes from another message board, one not devoted to comics (wickedmountain knows the one I mean). _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Old Fantastic Four comic book It may have been a Galactus encounter.......or maybe not. Anyhow, they are facing off some space alien (looked like a shaggy haired dressed ape), who, among other things, has lived in the cores of stars. At one point in the battle, the Torch is facing him off. The alien throws a force bolt at the torch and instead of being knocked down, the Torch increases his flame and absorbs the blast. Crystal is involved and she is cowering around the corner, thinking how "Johnny is glowing like a living star.". The Torch takes the absorbed energy, tries to throw it against the alien, but the alien comments how it was a nice try but since he has lived in the core of stars, he is use to such things. The Torch has to retreat as the alien then starts to radiate what might be described as white fusion. Was probably back in the 80's or even the 70's. Anyone know the issue or the name of the alien? ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ The description seems familiar but I haven't been able to place it. Does anyone recognize it? Paging tolworthy... I recognize that Crystal quote--it's from Fantastic Four #63. They're facing Blastaar.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 20, 2015 17:41:03 GMT -5
Thanks, farrar! I'll post the answer on the city-data forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 0:03:53 GMT -5
>sigh<I was thinking you meant these guys... Now that story I loved. And there was this version And thanks to wildfire2099 and thwhtguardian. It sounds like they just went with the electric blue bit without a clear idea of what to do with it, or where to go with it, and then just ended it, without a clear explanation. Weird.
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Post by JKCarrier on Jul 21, 2015 0:39:24 GMT -5
Superman witnesses part of the fire in Superman 142, but the reference lasts for all of one panel. Which may be for the best since it prevented him from learning that it was actually Krypto who started the fire as per Superboy 111.
Unless it was the Atom...or Professor Andro...or... Thanks, Chad (and Hal)!
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 21, 2015 13:57:28 GMT -5
My question is semi classic comic related...
Are there any newer titles or series (say within the past 10-15 years) that publish comics with a deliberate attempt to mimic the style from the 60's or 70's? I am talking maybe like an independent company or underground type comic series that still prints on newsprint paper and makes their comics look "older". I only ask because I find this is one of the main reason I dislike newer comics. The paper or whatever they are printed on is just too new age for this classic collector.
I know printing on newsprint is way out of style and the machines are probably not even used but in the wake of records/lps making a comeback for music, I wondered if this was possible or had been done.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 14:26:55 GMT -5
My question is semi classic comic related... Are there any newer titles or series (say within the past 10-15 years) that publish comics with a deliberate attempt to mimic the style from the 60's or 70's? I am talking maybe like an independent company or underground type comic series that still prints on newsprint paper and makes their comics look "older". I only ask because I find this is one of the main reason I dislike newer comics. The paper or whatever they are printed on is just too new age for this classic collector. I know printing on newsprint is way out of style and the machines are probably not even used but in the wake of records/lps making a comeback for music, I wondered if this was possible or had been done. We looked at newsprint for something for the studio I was with last year, it is almost impossible to do now. The newsprint paper itself is about 4-5 times the price of standard paper now and in limited supply since most of what is made is sold to newspapers since all other demand for it disappeared, and the offset printing presses used for it are not used for anything else and most printing shops that do not work with major newspapers have gotten rid of the machines to make space for other more useful apparatus (and since many newspapers have their own presses there's not a lot of shops who work with them. We abandoned the idea of newsprint when we realized it was going to cost us quadruple the cost per copy and that we would likely have to go out of state to find a printer that still had the machines available to do it. So I would say the costs of newsprint would be prohibitive for any kind of small publisher to use them for regular books currently. The only project I can remember on newsprint in the semi-recent past, was the Wednesday Comics weekly newsppaper of comics DC did a while back that only ran for about a dozen issues (and was done on reg paper when collected in trade. -M
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 21, 2015 17:40:47 GMT -5
Interesting to know thanks mrp!
I would love to see it done someday, maybe one of the major publishers would put out a limited print issue or something. And who knows, maybe someday it will be done again. As I recall, records and LPs were super pricey which is why people moved away from them and for a number of years this was the case until recently.
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