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Post by shaxper on Jul 30, 2015 10:14:41 GMT -5
Wasn't the Onslaught storyline essentially borrowed from the X-Men vs. Micronauts limited series? I've never read either, but that's what I've been told.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 30, 2015 10:29:16 GMT -5
Wasn't the Onslaught storyline essentially borrowed from the X-Men vs. Micronauts limited series? I've never read either, but that's what I've been told. They share some elements, but the Onslaught story has the added benefit of
Magneto's mind merged with Xavier's to create Onslaught. Xavier had mind-wiped Magneto in X-Men 25, which meant that Onslaught was building on a previous lousy X-event. Double terrible X-event jeopardy. |
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Post by The Cheat on Jul 30, 2015 15:09:09 GMT -5
Onslaught omnibus due out soon. Fairly sure it'll end up in the discount bins at some point.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 31, 2015 8:37:21 GMT -5
To what extent were the Baxter reprints used? Warlock was the first I came across, and was recently reminded of it reading the Life of Captain Marvel. Was this just a Marvel thing?
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Post by Trevor on Jul 31, 2015 8:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 31, 2015 9:27:50 GMT -5
I had forgotten I had Roots of the Swamp Thing and Saga of Ras al Ghul. I agree with blogger on how well the Baxter stock retains it's luster. It's one of the things I liked and have in the case of Warlock, Swamp Thing, and Cap Marvel, own both them and the original material. The Baxters are nice for multiple readings.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 20:49:08 GMT -5
Onslaught omnibus due out soon. Fairly sure it'll end up in the discount bins at some point. Might get it if I get a good deal on it... |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 3, 2015 20:59:22 GMT -5
Here's a question: Was the Dc implosion a result of poor sales or because they were purchased by another company that wanted to downsize?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 3, 2015 21:05:39 GMT -5
Here's a question: Was the Dc implosion a result of poor sales or because they were purchased by another company that wanted to downsize? It was a combination of factors. DC launched a ton of new titles with the aim of overtaking Marvel in sales. But the sales weren't there. It was an economically bad time in the U.S. There were large blizzards around the time of the new books coming out that hampered sales and distribution. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Aug 3, 2015 21:07:00 GMT -5
Here's a question: Was the Dc implosion a result of poor sales or because they were purchased by another company that wanted to downsize? I think it had something to do with the "Blizzard of '78" making it difficult to get the books to market, as well as making it hard for consumers to purchase the books. I was living in Ohio at the time and we were snowed in for quite a while.
Other factors surely played a role, but the weather didn't do anybody any favors. Brrrr. 
ETA: Ah, I see Slam beat me to it. 
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Post by Crimebuster on Aug 3, 2015 21:23:19 GMT -5
There also was some major interference from the suits upstairs at Warner. Jenette Kahn had pushed through the DC Explosion, greatly increasing the number of titles they were putting out, in an attempt to maximize their rack space at newsstands. I think the idea was to profit from volume of titles being sold, rather than volume of copies being sold by individual titles. This was in response to what was already an outdated distribution and sales system for comics by that point.
Warner didn't get on board with her plan, though. They were just looking at the bottom line of the individual titles, many of which were not selling that well, rather than any ancillary benefits to the line as a whole that DC would get by being a bigger presence for the merchants who decided which books would get prime real estate. So Warner dropped the boom and forced her to cancel a slew of titles. I know Kahn has complained that the people at Warner just did not understand the realities of the distribution system.
I think this was one of the major reasons she pushed so hard to create the direct market; her attempt to influence the newsstand system had been an abject failure, so she switched gears and tried to create an alternative sales platform, which she succeeded in doing.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 3, 2015 22:27:39 GMT -5
Was the way sooooo many DC titles were sooooo crappy at that point a factor?
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Post by shaxper on Aug 3, 2015 23:21:03 GMT -5
On a related note, I'd love to know why DC has never reprinted/published Cancelled Comics Cavalcade.
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 4, 2015 11:18:13 GMT -5
On a related note, I'd love to know why DC has never reprinted/published Cancelled Comics Cavalcade. I believe it has to do with higher royalty agreements from that timeframe which make niche reprints cost-prohibitive. The books that have been reprinted from the period have had the creators sign an amended royalty agreement which lowered the royalty rate. I'd imagine that the logistics of such agreements for CCC would be difficult since you're dealing with a bunch of different creators rather than a regular creative team. |
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Post by MDG on Aug 4, 2015 12:36:27 GMT -5
On a related note, I'd love to know why DC has never reprinted/published Cancelled Comics Cavalcade. I believe it has to do with higher royalty agreements from that timeframe which make niche reprints cost-prohibitive. The books that have been reprinted from the period have had the creators sign an amended royalty agreement which lowered the royalty rate. I'd imagine that the logistics of such agreements for CCC would be difficult since you're dealing with a bunch of different creators rather than a regular creative team. Haven't some individual stories appeared in collections? |
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