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Post by spoon on Feb 14, 2020 20:23:47 GMT -5
I'm starting a planned binge read of Spider-Girl. Although I have her various solo series, I haven't bought either the Last Hero Standing or Last Planet Standing mini-series. Do they tie into to Spider-Girl's solo series at all? Would you recommend including them in a binge read?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 14, 2020 20:48:14 GMT -5
I never got the two events at the end, but my understanding is its something of a conclusion to the MC2 universe.. so if you're enjoying it, you probably want them
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Post by zaku on Feb 15, 2020 10:57:38 GMT -5
It occurred to me while I was reading the reviews of All-Star Squadron: there is a particular behind-the-scene reason why they never used Earth-2 Aquaman (except for its appearance in the last two issues of the magazine)? Considering how much of the Second World War was fought on the sea, his skills would have been somewhat useful ...
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 15, 2020 11:49:31 GMT -5
It occurred to me while I was reading the reviews of All-Star Squadron: there is a particular behind-the-scene reason why they never used Earth-2 Aquaman (except for its appearance in the last two issues of the magazine)? Considering how much of the Second World War was fought on the sea, his skills would have been somewhat useful ... I think it was simply a case of Roy not getting the chance to use him before Crisis on Infinite Earths erased the character from continuity. Given more time, I'm sure he'd have worked E2 Aquaman into a later plot, possibly teamed with Neptune Perkins and Tsumani.
Cei-U! I summon the educated guess!
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 15, 2020 15:02:51 GMT -5
I seem to recall Roy saying he was discouraged from using characters who had JLA counterparts, particularly the ones that were nearly identical. Superman, Batman and Robin were in the preview and were unconscious through the first storyline, then pfft. Green Lantern was also taken out quickly. Atom was different enough from Ray Palmer that he got a pass, and Hawkman was Roy's insistence, since he had been in nearly all of the JSA adventures, in the 40s. Johnny Quick filled in for Flash and Liberty Belle for Wonder Woman.
Really, there wasn't much of a difference between Aquaman of the 40s and the Silver Age, other than some yellow gloves, used briefly. He didn't really become that strong a character until the Silver Age ad Nick Cardy. I would guess Roy didn't have much of an attachment to him, compared to Namor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 15:37:27 GMT -5
Really, there wasn't much of a difference between Aquaman of the 40s and the Silver Age, other than some yellow gloves, used briefly. He didn't really become that strong a character until the Silver Age ad Nick Cardy. I would guess Roy didn't have much of an attachment to him, compared to Namor. Plus Namor was one of Marvel's big 3 in the 40s and Aquaman was a third tier character in the 40s.
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Post by zaku on Feb 15, 2020 18:18:07 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for the answers. Before posting the question here, I had done some research on the subject and on a blog they had noticed how at DC they had almost tried to eliminate the concept of an Earth-2 Aquaman. Case in point (from Comic Adventure Comics #461): It is a bit peculiar that they wanted to indicate specifically Aquaman as a hero who was unique to Earth One ...
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 15, 2020 20:07:29 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for the answers. Before posting the question here, I had done some research on the subject and on a blog they had noticed how at DC they had almost tried to eliminate the concept of an Earth-2 Aquaman. Case in point (from Comic Adventure Comics #461): It is a bit peculiar that they wanted to indicate specifically Aquaman as a hero who was unique to Earth One ... Well, again, I think it is mainly due to his more minor status in the 40s. He didn't really cross over with anyone, other than Green Arrow, but that was because they were in the same title and that was in 1959. There was little difference between the Aquaman of the Golden and Silver Ages, apart from an expanded supporting cast and greater detail on his back history. So, it makes sense to just shift him to Earth 1. Really, that more or less happened with Green Arrow. He pretty much slipped over to Earth 1, until the Seven Soldiers of Victory were revived in JLA, and, even then, apart from Star Spangled Kid, most of them were left unseen until years later (apart from the Vigilante). Aquaman was so identified with the JLA and no one else, it made sense to just erase the Golden Age version. With the Trinity, they had definite dividing lines. All were at least associates of the JSA. Batman underwent a costume change. Superman's symbol changed and Luthor's name and history changed (and he started out at the Daily Star). Wonder Woman was tied to WW2, then was in the present. You could sort of divy it up and say "This is the Earth 2 version and this is the Earth 1." With Green Arrow, all you can say is that The Seven Soldiers of Victory GA is Earth 2 and his solo stuff is Earth 1, with the further divide coming with the revamped costume. With Aquaman, you don't have much of a divide, other than a few wartime stories with Axis villains. That just screams Namor; so, best leave it alone. The one thing Crisis did streamline was the so-called duplicate heroes, where it is pretty much the same character because they continued to be published, after 1945. The one lone hiccup in that is the Seven Soldiers of Victory; but, that is solved by removing Green Arrow & Speedy and giving full team status to Stuff and Wing, the sidekicks of Vigilante and Crimson Avenger (respectively).
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 15, 2020 22:17:47 GMT -5
Actually, there are differences between the Earth-2/Golden Age and Earth-1/Silver Age versions of Aquaman that go far beyond their wearing different colored gloves. The original Aquaman's powers were not innate but given to him in early childhood by his father, an oceanographer rather than a lighthouse keeper who used secrets of science he discovered in the ruins of Atlantis. He was not half-Atlantean, he had no limit on the time he could live out of water, and although he could command sealife it was never described nor depicted as telepathy. There is no clear-cut dividing line between the two incarnations, but in my indexes I cite Adventure Comics #229 (October 1956) as the first E1 Aquaman story because it is the first appearance of Topo.
Cei-U! I summon the King of the Seven Seas!
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Post by zaku on Feb 16, 2020 4:31:06 GMT -5
Actually, there are differences between the Earth-2/Golden Age and Earth-1/Silver Age versions of Aquaman that go far beyond their wearing different colored gloves. The original Aquaman's powers were not innate but given to him in early childhood by his father, an oceanographer rather than a lighthouse keeper who used secrets of science he discovered in the ruins of Atlantis. He was not half-Atlantean, he had no limit on the time he could live out of water, and although he could command sealife it was never described nor depicted as telepathy. There is no clear-cut dividing line between the two incarnations, but in my indexes I cite Adventure Comics #229 (October 1956) as the first E1 Aquaman story because it is the first appearance of Topo. Cei-U! I summon the King of the Seven Seas! When for a period there was a new Aquaman, his origin was very similar to the Earth-2 one. They even noted this in-story!
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 16, 2020 5:23:07 GMT -5
That was Sword of Atlantis, correct ? I liked that version and the one before it, Veitch's Aquaman with the water hand.
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Post by zaku on Feb 16, 2020 5:26:57 GMT -5
That was Sword of Atlantis, correct ? I liked that version and the one before it, Veitch's Aquaman with the water hand. yep!
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Post by Trevor on Feb 29, 2020 11:57:11 GMT -5
Are there any comic book stories specifically about Leap Day?
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Post by Trevor on Feb 29, 2020 12:10:29 GMT -5
Doh, Superman’s birthday! How could I forget that?
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 29, 2020 12:45:27 GMT -5
Seems to me there was a Myxyzptlk story that revolved around it being a leap year. Don't really recall the specifics, other than that being the twist.
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