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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 8:52:44 GMT -5
Thank you. Those are exactly the pages I am looking for. Much appreciated, tarkintino (I sort of want to do a retrospective of the film on my Facebook page, with perhaps a comparison of 3 movie scenes with 3 comicbook scenes).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 12:12:54 GMT -5
The Hulk battled Juggernaut in 1974’s The Incredible Hulk #172. I also recall a Hulk/Juggernaut confrontation around 1992, during smart Hulk’s tenure. Were there any Hulk/Juggernaut battles between 1974 and 1992?
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Post by badwolf on Jun 26, 2023 12:22:50 GMT -5
The Hulk battled Juggernaut in 1974’s The Incredible Hulk #172. I also recall a Hulk/Juggernaut confrontation around 1992, during smart Hulk’s tenure. Were there any Hulk/Juggernaut battles between 1974 and 1992? A hallucinatory battle here:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 12:27:39 GMT -5
Ah, of course. How could I forget that one?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 26, 2023 12:52:37 GMT -5
Ah, of course. How could I forget that one? You thought you'd imagined it.
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Post by majestic on Jun 27, 2023 15:01:54 GMT -5
The Hulk battled Juggernaut in 1974’s The Incredible Hulk #172. I also recall a Hulk/Juggernaut confrontation around 1992, during smart Hulk’s tenure. Were there any Hulk/Juggernaut battles between 1974 and 1992? A hallucinatory battle here:
I forget the story behind Byrne's brief run on the Hulk. Can anyone remind me?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 27, 2023 15:12:58 GMT -5
A hallucinatory battle here:
I forget the story behind Byrne's brief run on the Hulk. Can anyone remind me? Byrne was tied of working on Alpha Flight and Mantlo was tired of working on the Hulk. So they swapped. Or at least that's the way it was presented at the time! It could also be that Byrne wanted to give another Marvel Big Name the "back to the basics" treatment he had used on the Fantastic Four. (I remember him saying that he would try to use four panels or less per page, so as to force himself to conceive very kinetic, action-packed scenes. Hulk smash!!!) My only memory of that short run is that Byrne drew a very good silver-and-red Iron Man. Much better-looking that in Iron Man's own book!
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Post by badwolf on Jun 27, 2023 15:51:05 GMT -5
I forget the story behind Byrne's brief run on the Hulk. Can anyone remind me? Byrne was tied of working on Alpha Flight and Mantlo was tired of working on the Hulk. So they swapped. Or at least that's the way it was presented at the time! It could also be that Byrne wanted to give another Marvel Big Name the "back to the basics" treatment he had used on the Fantastic Four. (I remember him saying that he would try to use four panels or less per page, so as to force himself to conceive very kinetic, action-packed scenes. Hulk smash!!!) My only memory of that short run is that Byrne drew a very good silver-and-red Iron Man. Much better-looking that in Iron Man's own book! Byrne never really wanted to work on Alpha Flight; he preferred to be on the "classic" (Lee/Kirby/Ditko) characters of his own youth. The Hulk run was very good. I think he left because the issue he did in all splash pages was rejected. It later appeared as an issue of Marvel Fanfare. That was good too.
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Post by zaku on Jun 27, 2023 15:51:06 GMT -5
I forget the story behind Byrne's brief run on the Hulk. Can anyone remind me? Byrne was tied of working on Alpha Flight and Mantlo was tired of working on the Hulk. So they swapped. Or at least that's the way it was presented at the time! It could also be that Byrne wanted to give another Marvel Big Name the "back to the basics" treatment he had used on the Fantastic Four. (I remember him saying that he would try to use four panels or less per page, so as to force himself to conceive very kinetic, action-packed scenes. Hulk smash!!!) My only memory of that short run is that Byrne drew a very good silver-and-red Iron Man. Much better-looking that in Iron Man's own book! Why the run was so short? Edit: just answered!!!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 27, 2023 18:27:52 GMT -5
Didn't he leave to reboot Superman at DC?
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 27, 2023 18:37:58 GMT -5
Byrne was tied of working on Alpha Flight and Mantlo was tired of working on the Hulk. So they swapped. Or at least that's the way it was presented at the time! It could also be that Byrne wanted to give another Marvel Big Name the "back to the basics" treatment he had used on the Fantastic Four. (I remember him saying that he would try to use four panels or less per page, so as to force himself to conceive very kinetic, action-packed scenes. Hulk smash!!!) My only memory of that short run is that Byrne drew a very good silver-and-red Iron Man. Much better-looking that in Iron Man's own book! Byrne never really wanted to work on Alpha Flight; he preferred to be on the "classic" (Lee/Kirby/Ditko) characters of his own youth. The Hulk run was very good. I think he left because the issue he did in all splash pages was rejected. It later appeared as an issue of Marvel Fanfare. That was good too. Shooter didn't know what he had. My memory from interviews tells me that Shooter was not the person to reject the Hulk splash comic. It was the Hulk editor. Shooter encouraged Byrne to start the Alpha Flight book, so he “knew what he had”. Byrne went to DC and left Marvel because neither company wanted him doing both Superman and FF at the same time. Sheesh, Shooter gets blamed for everything.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 27, 2023 18:47:41 GMT -5
Byrne never really wanted to work on Alpha Flight; he preferred to be on the "classic" (Lee/Kirby/Ditko) characters of his own youth. The Hulk run was very good. I think he left because the issue he did in all splash pages was rejected. It later appeared as an issue of Marvel Fanfare. That was good too. My memory from interviews tells me that Shooter was not the person to reject the Hulk splash comic. It was the Hulk editor. Shooter encouraged Byrne to start the Alpha Flight book, so he “knew what he had”. Byrne went to DC and left Marvel because neither company wanted him doing both Superman and FF at the same time. Sheesh, Shooter gets blamed for everything. Ok, I misremembered, sorry.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 27, 2023 18:54:18 GMT -5
My memory from interviews tells me that Shooter was not the person to reject the Hulk splash comic. It was the Hulk editor. Shooter encouraged Byrne to start the Alpha Flight book, so he “knew what he had”. Byrne went to DC and left Marvel because neither company wanted him doing both Superman and FF at the same time. Sheesh, Shooter gets blamed for everything. Ok, I misremembered, sorry. It’s cool, badwolf is a bad mother -shut your mouth.
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Post by Calidore on Jun 27, 2023 18:57:05 GMT -5
My memory from interviews tells me that Shooter was not the person to reject the Hulk splash comic. It was the Hulk editor. Shooter encouraged Byrne to start the Alpha Flight book, so he “knew what he had”. Byrne went to DC and left Marvel because neither company wanted him doing both Superman and FF at the same time. Sheesh, Shooter gets blamed for everything. Ok, I misremembered, sorry. To be fair, Byrne blames Shooter for pretty much everything, including his leaving Hulk. So you may not have misremembered; it may just depend on whose account one reads.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 27, 2023 19:13:04 GMT -5
Ok, I misremembered, sorry. To be fair, Byrne blames Shooter for pretty much everything, including his leaving Hulk. So you may not have misremembered; it may just depend on whose account one reads. Now that I think about it some more, I think Icky is right and it was Denny O'Neil. Dammit Denny!
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