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Post by Calidore on Oct 7, 2023 19:42:04 GMT -5
Chronology-related, I think. It's in the second LJ Omnibus. I hate that. I like reading things in the order they were originally published. That's my preference also. But since collections usually do work that way, my assumption would be that either Dark Horse thought this way was better, or Mignola himself suggested it.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 9, 2023 4:58:17 GMT -5
On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it that the likes of IDW, Image, and Dark Horse will implement something akin to Marvel Unlimited?
I’m finding so much out of print.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 9, 2023 9:42:29 GMT -5
On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it that the likes of IDW, Image, and Dark Horse will implement something akin to Marvel Unlimited? I’m finding so much out of print. They should. IDW might not be aground much longer I hear.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 9, 2023 9:45:24 GMT -5
Oh damn, I’m not really keeping up with the business side of comic news now (I gathered something was happening when I saw Transformers at another licensee).
I got bored with perpetual Big Two events and crossovers. I’m not stating that IDW is blameless in that, but they’ve given me much enjoyment over the last 5-10 years.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 9, 2023 9:49:02 GMT -5
The big 2 are backed by big corporations , they could lose money in their comic division and still survive. I'm guessing that most comic companies are losing money.
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Post by tartanphantom on Oct 9, 2023 9:51:30 GMT -5
On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it that the likes of IDW, Image, and Dark Horse will implement something akin to Marvel Unlimited? I’m finding so much out of print. They should. IDW might not be aground much longer I hear.
When your primary source of material is licensing, and you lose your biggest-selling licenses, things will not end well, especially if you've been steadily losing money and net worth for the past 5 years.
I sincerely believe that IDW's comic division's days are numbered.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 9, 2023 9:53:34 GMT -5
They should. IDW might not be aground much longer I hear.
When your primary source of material is licensing, and you lose your biggest-selling licenses, things will not end well, especially if you've been steadily losing money and net worth for the past 5 years.
Meanwhile, and sorry to be negative, Marvel will continue with its 3,456 tie-in issues to “Hulk’s War on Asgard II” arc. How depressing!
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 9, 2023 9:58:08 GMT -5
When your primary source of material is licensing, and you lose your biggest-selling licenses, things will not end well, especially if you've been steadily losing money and net worth for the past 5 years.
Meanwhile, and sorry to be negative, Marvel will continue with its 3,456 tie-in issues to “Hulk’s War on Asgard II” arc. How depressing! The big two don’t care about their comics.
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Post by tartanphantom on Oct 9, 2023 10:19:21 GMT -5
When your primary source of material is licensing, and you lose your biggest-selling licenses, things will not end well, especially if you've been steadily losing money and net worth for the past 5 years.
Meanwhile, and sorry to be negative, Marvel will continue with its 3,456 tie-in issues to “Hulk’s War on Asgard II” arc. How depressing!
For their parent companies, the comics divisions of Marvel and DC are simply platforms for quick Trademark (not copyright) renewal on intellectual property. Without the comics, they would have to constantly put out films and include dozens of "Z-list" characters. With comics, it's easier and cheaper to drop a character into an existing title for one or two stories with some minimal name reference for identification and call it a day for continuous Trademark exercise for a few more years. Trademarks as intellectual property are designed for ongoing use, but requires a refiling after the first 5 years, and then every 10 years after that. It's a bit more complicated than that, and companies don't even have to self-publish-- they can farm it out under license and accomplish the same goal.
If you think that Disney/Marvel or Warner/Discovery/DC really care about their comics output, try actually reading any title published by them in the last couple of years. I challenge you-- unless you are into talking heads continuously waxing philosophic about ideology rhetoric of some sort. Actually for me, I don't care about that so much as I care about the fact that the quality of art has really taken a downward slide in recent years. If the art sucks, I might as well not even buy comics, I'll just stick to novels for decent storytelling and visualize it all in my brain.
This is why I've been primarily a back-issue collector for the last 10-15 years. I have very little interest in Marvel/DC output for almost all of the 2000's to present. Yes, there are a few gems in the mix, but it's not the regular order of the day-- particularly the last 5 years or so.
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Post by MDG on Oct 9, 2023 12:19:50 GMT -5
Meanwhile, and sorry to be negative, Marvel will continue with its 3,456 tie-in issues to “Hulk’s War on Asgard II” arc. How depressing!
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If you think that Disney/Marvel or Warner/Discovery/DC really care about their comics output, try actually reading any title published by them in the last couple of years. I challenge you-- unless you are into talking heads continuously waxing philosophic about ideology rhetoric of some sort. Actually for me, I don't care about that so much as I care about the fact that the quality of art has really taken a downward slide in recent years. If the art sucks, I might as well not even buy comics, I'll just stick to novels for decent storytelling and visualize it all in my brain.
I look at very little, but I've been seeing a lot of good art. In fact, I read the recent Human Target mini, and the art--technically--was among the best I've seen in comics.
However, even with that series, the art rarely added narratively or did any of the heavy lifting in the storytelling. Beautiful to look at, but it's a talky, talky book--often rehashing the same points every issue. And a lot of "inside baseball," where Human Target is one of the few characters where you can stay away from the rest of the DCU and have a great story.
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Post by tartanphantom on Oct 9, 2023 12:26:07 GMT -5
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If you think that Disney/Marvel or Warner/Discovery/DC really care about their comics output, try actually reading any title published by them in the last couple of years. I challenge you-- unless you are into talking heads continuously waxing philosophic about ideology rhetoric of some sort. Actually for me, I don't care about that so much as I care about the fact that the quality of art has really taken a downward slide in recent years. If the art sucks, I might as well not even buy comics, I'll just stick to novels for decent storytelling and visualize it all in my brain.
I look at very little, but I've been seeing a lot of good art. In fact, I read the recent Human Target mini, and the art--technically--was among the best I've seen in comics.
However, even with that series, the art rarely added narratively or did any of the heavy lifting in the storytelling. Beautiful to look at, but it's a talky, talky book--often rehashing the same points every issue. And a lot of "inside baseball," where Human Target is one of the few characters where you can stay away from the rest of the DCU and have a great story.
I suppose that when it comes to comics, I'll always be a pencil & ink Luddite. Also not a Tom King fan. To each his own, though.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 9, 2023 17:06:43 GMT -5
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If you think that Disney/Marvel or Warner/Discovery/DC really care about their comics output, try actually reading any title published by them in the last couple of years. I challenge you-- unless you are into talking heads continuously waxing philosophic about ideology rhetoric of some sort. Actually for me, I don't care about that so much as I care about the fact that the quality of art has really taken a downward slide in recent years. If the art sucks, I might as well not even buy comics, I'll just stick to novels for decent storytelling and visualize it all in my brain.
I look at very little, but I've been seeing a lot of good art. In fact, I read the recent Human Target mini, and the art--technically--was among the best I've seen in comics.
However, even with that series, the art rarely added narratively or did any of the heavy lifting in the storytelling. Beautiful to look at, but it's a talky, talky book--often rehashing the same points every issue. And a lot of "inside baseball," where Human Target is one of the few characters where you can stay away from the rest of the DCU and have a great story.
The critique these days is that the art is good but the storytelling is poor.
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Post by commond on Oct 9, 2023 17:14:23 GMT -5
I've been fairly impressed by the storytelling in the comics I've read from 2000 onwards. It's different from the classic comics we enjoy but in many ways more sophisticated. It's very much influenced by the Golden Era of television, I feel, so if you don't like modern television you might find it a turn off.
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Post by rberman on Oct 10, 2023 12:06:34 GMT -5
There's plenty of great art and great story in modern comics. If you're not finding what you want at the Big Two, look farther afield.
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Post by zaku on Oct 10, 2023 12:08:20 GMT -5
There's plenty of great art and great story in modern comics. If you're not finding what you want at the Big Two, look farther afield. I absolutely agree.
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