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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 20, 2024 4:47:53 GMT -5
I never was a fan of Romeo Tanghal's inks. The Best Perez inker for Perez was Jerry Ordway in COIE. I was also not a fan of Tanghlal's inks in the past, but I do wonder looking back if that's just because Perez's art at DC looked poorer generally because of the bad colouring/bad separations/bad paper at DC in the 80s. A lot of 80s DC looks hideous because of the colours. Crappy paper and separations might play the largest part in the issue, but the house colour palette was also ugly compared to Marvel's, and the work of the colourists also looked uninspired generally (covers were comparatively immune to separations and paper issues, but still tended not to look great). Man, the more I read about the past history of the publishing of comics, the more I recognize that it was a business that didn't care about spending money to make the products look the best they could. Dc did try with their Baxter books in the 80's, But they both wanted to keep their costs down. It wasn't until the 90's where coloring took a leap in quality with companies like Malibu and Image. I commented win a post somewhere that when I read some go my older books, the printing and lettering is faded in places.
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Post by rich on Sept 20, 2024 5:13:40 GMT -5
I was also not a fan of Tanghlal's inks in the past, but I do wonder looking back if that's just because Perez's art at DC looked poorer generally because of the bad colouring/bad separations/bad paper at DC in the 80s. A lot of 80s DC looks hideous because of the colours. Crappy paper and separations might play the largest part in the issue, but the house colour palette was also ugly compared to Marvel's, and the work of the colourists also looked uninspired generally (covers were comparatively immune to separations and paper issues, but still tended not to look great). Man, the more I read about the past history of the publishing of comics, the more I recognize that it was a business that didn't care about spending money to make the products look the best they could. Dc did try with their Baxter books in the 80's, But they both wanted to keep their costs down. It wasn't until the 90's where coloring took a leap in quality with companies like Malibu and Image. I commented win a post somewhere that when I read some go my older books, the printing and lettering is faded in places. In the last month or two I've read a lot about the business, and so much of it I honestly wish I didn't know. Creators treated like crap, editors behaving like little Hitlers- making decisions that made seeming no sense while demonstrating less than zero loyalty, saving a cent that could make comics look better, etc etc. Not to mention how a baffling number of creators seem to die before the average age. I liked to image the Bullpen to be a fun and exciting place, as many up and comers described it in the 60s, or how Marvel UK was run like a fun little club in the 80s, until Neary sacked everyone en masse. Edit: Essentially, Marvel and DC run like cogs in any large businesses, with employees generally treated like disposable commodities- probably because in comics a lot of creativity is necessary, and we tend to dislike the idea of creative people being treated with all the reverence and respect a cashier or janitor might receive from their employer. Creators brought us joy in our childhoods and beyond, so it's sad to discover a large percentage of them were jettisoned in their early 40s without a second thought, replaced with some new writers to easily manipulate or artists willing to spend 80 hours a week lashed to their desk. Business or no, many EiC's still didn't need to behave like raging assholes, yet many did. Look at the hate Quesada accumulated, for example. You'd have thought as a creative person that found himself at the top of the pile he'd have had more respect for fellow creators, but no. I had high hopes for his tenure after his promising start in editorial in Marvel Knights, but those hopes were dashed incredibly fast.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 20, 2024 7:01:33 GMT -5
If it bums you out to hear the dirty inside info, don’t read Marvel: the untold story.
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Post by rich on Sept 20, 2024 7:17:20 GMT -5
If it bums you out to hear the dirty inside info, don’t read Marvel: the untold story. You're right. I bought it and started it, but put it down early on. Such a pity the untold story wasn't positive and uplifting, or at least a pity that the industry didn't get things right more recently.
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