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Post by Action Ace on Jul 18, 2016 22:34:17 GMT -5
I'm toying with the idea of picking up the DVD box set of the five original Planet of the Apes movies because a store near me has it at a pretty reasonable price. To the best of my knowledge, I've only ever seen the original 1968 movie, which is, of course, an absolute classic. What are the other four sequels like? Are any of them in the same league as the original? I'm just wondering if I should maybe just pick up the first movie on DVD or should I take the plunge with the box set? None of them are remotely as good as the original. I'm not sure how much the box set is, so if you're getting them for "free" I might take the plunge. My question, how did "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" get a G rating? |
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 19, 2016 0:49:55 GMT -5
The first was the best, of course, but I liked em all.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 19, 2016 3:49:09 GMT -5
A younger version of myself really liked Beneath. Saw it in the theater with my dad without seeing the first one, but still enjoyed it. The weakest one is Escape, but the rest are all very entertaining.
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 19, 2016 4:13:32 GMT -5
I'm toying with the idea of picking up the DVD box set of the five original Planet of the Apes movies because a store near me has it at a pretty reasonable price. To the best of my knowledge, I've only ever seen the original 1968 movie, which is, of course, an absolute classic. What are the other four sequels like? Are any of them in the same league as the original? I'm just wondering if I should maybe just pick up the first movie on DVD or should I take the plunge with the box set? I'd get the box set. The only one of the four that I'd say doesn't quite measure up is the fifth one. |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 19, 2016 9:03:55 GMT -5
I'm toying with the idea of picking up the DVD box set of the five original Planet of the Apes movies because a store near me has it at a pretty reasonable price. To the best of my knowledge, I've only ever seen the original 1968 movie, which is, of course, an absolute classic. What are the other four sequels like? Are any of them in the same league as the original? I'm just wondering if I should maybe just pick up the first movie on DVD or should I take the plunge with the box set? Oh man oh man oh man oh man! PoTA is one of my favorite film franchises ever. While the first film is a true classic, it's also the one I watch the least. The pace is plodding and I have no empathy for Charlton Heston'Heston ' s character. The second film is a B Film through and through but can still be fun to watch. It's the final three films that truly form the center of the series. The third film is adequate, the fourth film is brilliant, and the fifth film is still very very good. The budgets and costumes are rough in these films, and the logic doesn't always work, but there's a lot of fun and passion at work, and I cannot get enough of them. I reviewed each of the films here: classiccomics.boards.net/thread/224/planet-apes-beginning-reviews-shaxper?page=3&scrollTo=12900 |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 19, 2016 9:39:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments on the old Planet of the Apes film franchise so far guys. They've all been very helpful. I'm toying with the idea of picking up the DVD box set of the five original Planet of the Apes movies because a store near me has it at a pretty reasonable price. To the best of my knowledge, I've only ever seen the original 1968 movie, which is, of course, an absolute classic. What are the other four sequels like? Are any of them in the same league as the original? I'm just wondering if I should maybe just pick up the first movie on DVD or should I take the plunge with the box set? Oh man oh man oh man oh man! PoTA is one of my favorite film franchises ever. While the first film is a true classic, it's also the one I watch the least. The pace is plodding and I have no empathy for Charlton Heston'Heston ' s character. The second film is a B Film through and through but can still be fun to watch. It's the final three films that truly form the center of the series. The third film is adequate, the fourth film is brilliant, and the fifth film is still very very good. The budgets and costumes are rough in these films, and the logic doesn't always work, but there's a lot of fun and passion at work, and I cannot get enough of them. I reviewed each of the films here: classiccomics.boards.net/thread/224/planet-apes-beginning-reviews-shaxper?page=3&scrollTo=12900Thanks for that, shax. I'll check out your reviews of the films in a moment. Interesting that you pick the final two films as your favourites. A cursory glance online last night seemed to indicated that critical consensus is that the last two movies were the worst, with the fifth one in particular being a bit of a turkey. EDIT: An attendant question: Did Marvel ever do comic book adaptations of any of the PoTA's movies? |
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 19, 2016 10:17:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments on the old Planet of the Apes film franchise so far guys. They've all been very helpful. Oh man oh man oh man oh man! PoTA is one of my favorite film franchises ever. While the first film is a true classic, it's also the one I watch the least. The pace is plodding and I have no empathy for Charlton Heston'Heston ' s character. The second film is a B Film through and through but can still be fun to watch. It's the final three films that truly form the center of the series. The third film is adequate, the fourth film is brilliant, and the fifth film is still very very good. The budgets and costumes are rough in these films, and the logic doesn't always work, but there's a lot of fun and passion at work, and I cannot get enough of them. I reviewed each of the films here: classiccomics.boards.net/thread/224/planet-apes-beginning-reviews-shaxper?page=3&scrollTo=12900Thanks for that, shax. I'll check out your reviews of the films in a moment. Interesting that you pick the final two films as your favourites. A cursory glance online last night seemed to indicated that critical consensus is that the last two movies were the worst, with the fifth one in particular being a bit of a turkey. EDIT: An attendant question: Did Marvel ever do comic book adaptations of any of the PoTA's movies? Yes, all of them. And then they told new stories based on the franchise. The POTA situation is a particularly interesting piece of history for fans of Marvel UK, as it led to the rather curious situation where the British reprint POTA weekly was using up material faster than it could be produced for the original US comic-so the weekly ended up "reprinting" material before it had actually seen print in the US! Even then, there was a backlog, which led to a particularly innovative solution on Marvel's part; for several weeks, the regular POTA strip was replaced by a rather bizarre series called "Apeslayer" which involved human rebels fighting cyborg apes and their tripod death machines. The more discerning readers may have deduced fairly quickly that these were, in fact, partially redrawn and relettered Killraven stories...which didn't stop one confused reader, a few years later, complaining when Killraven began to appear in other Marvel UK books that they had "redrawn Apeslayer, with Martians"... for more info see: britishcomics.wikia.com/wiki/Apeslayer |
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 19, 2016 10:32:58 GMT -5
The Apes also made it into another long running Marvel UK title when their own bit the dust after three years.  |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 19, 2016 11:02:59 GMT -5
Interesting that you pick the final two films as your favourites. A cursory glance online last night seemed to indicated that critical consensus is that the last two movies were the worst, with the fifth one in particular being a bit of a turkey. Any true fan of the franchise (and not just of the first film) will tell you the fourth is their favorite. That's nearly unanimous. The fifth film gets maligned a lot because the budget is so small its microscopic -- a bunch of kids could have made it -- but the writing and acting is the best of the entire series, as far as I'm concerned. Yes, they did adaptations for each of the film, and most were gorgeous. They were originally included in the Planet of the Apes magazines and then reprinted in the standard-size Adventures on The Planet of the Apes comics (which contained no other content). they were quite beautiful to look at, especially the Alfredo Alcala work. Power Records also did some less faithful adaptations of the films that are interesting to check out, and Gold Key did an adaptation of Beneath the Planet of the Apes. Still, I maintain the original, non-adaptation Doug Moench Planet of the Apes comics surpassed any of the films. One of my favorite runs of all time, which I reviewed here. |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 19, 2016 11:06:00 GMT -5
The POTA situation is a particularly interesting piece of history for fans of Marvel UK, as it led to the rather curious situation where the British reprint POTA weekly was using up material faster than it could be produced for the original US comic-so the weekly ended up "reprinting" material before it had actually seen print in the US! Even then, there was a backlog, which led to a particularly innovative solution on Marvel's part; for several weeks, the regular POTA strip was replaced by a rather bizarre series called "Apeslayer" which involved human rebels fighting cyborg apes and their tripod death machines. The more discerning readers may have deduced fairly quickly that these were, in fact, partially redrawn and relettered Killraven stories...which didn't stop one confused reader, a few years later, complaining when Killraven began to appear in other Marvel UK books that they had "redrawn Apeslayer, with Martians"... for more info see: britishcomics.wikia.com/wiki/ApeslayerHere's some more info about Apeslayer, along with actual scans: classiccomics.boards.net/post/12905/thread |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 19, 2016 11:39:55 GMT -5
I'm toying with the idea of picking up the DVD box set of the five original Planet of the Apes movies because a store near me has it at a pretty reasonable price. To the best of my knowledge, I've only ever seen the original 1968 movie, which is, of course, an absolute classic. What are the other four sequels like? Are any of them in the same league as the original? I'm just wondering if I should maybe just pick up the first movie on DVD or should I take the plunge with the box set? Oh man oh man oh man oh man! PoTA is one of my favorite film franchises ever. While the first film is a true classic, it's also the one I watch the least. The pace is plodding and I have no empathy for Charlton Heston'Heston ' s character. The second film is a B Film through and through but can still be fun to watch. It's the final three films that truly form the center of the series. The third film is adequate, the fourth film is brilliant, and the fifth film is still very very good. The budgets and costumes are rough in these films, and the logic doesn't always work, but there's a lot of fun and passion at work, and I cannot get enough of them. I reviewed each of the films here: classiccomics.boards.net/thread/224/planet-apes-beginning-reviews-shaxper?page=3&scrollTo=12900Wow we disagree. I thought the first two were classics that could stand alone. |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 19, 2016 11:41:56 GMT -5
Oh man oh man oh man oh man! PoTA is one of my favorite film franchises ever. While the first film is a true classic, it's also the one I watch the least. The pace is plodding and I have no empathy for Charlton Heston'Heston ' s character. The second film is a B Film through and through but can still be fun to watch. It's the final three films that truly form the center of the series. The third film is adequate, the fourth film is brilliant, and the fifth film is still very very good. The budgets and costumes are rough in these films, and the logic doesn't always work, but there's a lot of fun and passion at work, and I cannot get enough of them. I reviewed each of the films here: classiccomics.boards.net/thread/224/planet-apes-beginning-reviews-shaxper?page=3&scrollTo=12900Wow we disagree. I thought the first two were classics that could stand alone. The first one is very good, but it isn't much fun (Zira aside). The second one's much fun, but it isn't very good  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 19, 2016 11:43:50 GMT -5
I won't argue the merits of the films. Sometimes something is fun without being brilliant. I have to watch both again while I'm still on vacation.  |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 19, 2016 11:59:00 GMT -5
The POTA situation is a particularly interesting piece of history for fans of Marvel UK, as it led to the rather curious situation where the British reprint POTA weekly was using up material faster than it could be produced for the original US comic-so the weekly ended up "reprinting" material before it had actually seen print in the US! Even then, there was a backlog, which led to a particularly innovative solution on Marvel's part; for several weeks, the regular POTA strip was replaced by a rather bizarre series called "Apeslayer" which involved human rebels fighting cyborg apes and their tripod death machines. The more discerning readers may have deduced fairly quickly that these were, in fact, partially redrawn and relettered Killraven stories...which didn't stop one confused reader, a few years later, complaining when Killraven began to appear in other Marvel UK books that they had "redrawn Apeslayer, with Martians"... for more info see: britishcomics.wikia.com/wiki/ApeslayerI love that we have this kind of depth of knowledge in the forum.  |
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 19, 2016 12:14:16 GMT -5
Incidentally, sticking with British produced Apes strips, from 1975-1977 publishers Brown Watson produced three hardcover POTA annuals featuring strips based on the short lived TV series, drawn by unknown young artist John Bolton.  |
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