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Post by driver1980 on Jan 22, 2024 15:11:17 GMT -5
So which long-established pros did retain full command of their artistic skills late in their careers? The one that comes to my mind is Dan Spiegle: his work just got better and better for as long as he was in the business. Gray Morrow also seemed to keep up his abilities. Bill Everett's final Sub-Mariner work was some of his best-drawn stuff ever, but he died relatively young, before one would expect the technical skills to decline. I would say Eric Bradbury (1921-2001). It seems hard to find many images of his work, but I was impressed by his early and later stuff; I’m not entirely sure when he retired, I don’t know of any credits past 1991: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Bradbury |
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Post by kirby101 on Jan 22, 2024 15:38:54 GMT -5
Barry Windsor-Smith. Monsters might be his best work yet. Yeah, just ask him. Huh? It was twenty years of work and was universally praised. Award winning to boot. I don't see what is wrong with him saying it's his best work. |
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Post by foxley on Jan 22, 2024 19:06:26 GMT -5
So which long-established pros did retain full command of their artistic skills late in their careers? The one that comes to my mind is Dan Spiegle: his work just got better and better for as long as he was in the business. Gray Morrow also seemed to keep up his abilities. Bill Everett's final Sub-Mariner work was some of his best-drawn stuff ever, but he died relatively young, before one would expect the technical skills to decline. Murphy Anderson's art was still sharp up till his retirement in his 70s. |
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Post by MWGallaher on Jan 22, 2024 20:04:00 GMT -5
Russ Heath at age 82 or so:  Not quite at the peak of his powers, but still well-rendered work with strong composition, consistent proportions, convincing perspectives, and overall appeal. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 23, 2024 9:47:44 GMT -5
I've been rereading Dead Boy Detectives lately and came up with an interesting question. In Children's Crusade they have a classic noir style detective's office complete with a window with their names painted on it located in a haunted house. We don't see their office in what I believe is their next appearance in Winter's Edge #3...but then in Ed Brubaker's Sandman Presents: Dead Boy Detectives they are working out of a Tree House and mention that a demon stole their old office...but I can't find a reference to that story. Is that something Brubaker simply made up for his story in order to give them a new home base( an abandoned tree House is fitting) or is there a story I'm missing?
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Post by tonebone on Jan 23, 2024 10:22:20 GMT -5
Huh? It was twenty years of work and was universally praised. Award winning to boot. I don't see what is wrong with him saying it's his best work. Yeah, while reading it, I came across ONE panel where I thought "Eh, he could have done better"... otherwise, it's phenomenal. The story is obviously a reworked HULK tale, but the storytelling is incredible. |
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Post by tonebone on Jan 23, 2024 10:28:41 GMT -5
Not many artists retain their brilliance as they age. Even Neal Adams work was wonky at the end. I would say, yes, his work became "wonky". But I think it may be, in his case, that he could draw BETTER when he was older, and a lot of his stuff didn't have that "comics art" polish. I think he relied LESS on comic booky shortcuts, and more on pure drawing skill... Which makes a lot of his faces, for example, look not quite right. But when you REALLY examine them, they are drawn VERY well, and are correctly proportioned, and show an incredible deftness... in particular in mouth movement. Now, it often looks silly, like a photographer caught a weird mouth movement in a freeze frame, but it's drawn correctly. But I agree, it's not my favorite of his work, and is often uncomfortable to look at. But man, that dude could draw. |
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Post by foxley on Jan 23, 2024 10:33:16 GMT -5
I've been rereading Dead Boy Detectives lately and came up with an interesting question. In Children's Crusade they have a classic noir style detective's office complete with a window with their names painted on it located in a haunted house. We don't see their office in what I believe is their next appearance in Winter's Edge #3...but then in Ed Brubaker's Sandman Presents: Dead Boy Detectives they are working out of a Tree House and mention that a demon stole their old office...but I can't find a reference to that story. Is that something Brubaker simply made up for his story in order to give them a new home base( an abandoned tree House is fitting) or is there a story I'm missing? It's something Brubaker made up. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 23, 2024 10:40:56 GMT -5
I've been rereading Dead Boy Detectives lately and came up with an interesting question. In Children's Crusade they have a classic noir style detective's office complete with a window with their names painted on it located in a haunted house. We don't see their office in what I believe is their next appearance in Winter's Edge #3...but then in Ed Brubaker's Sandman Presents: Dead Boy Detectives they are working out of a Tree House and mention that a demon stole their old office...but I can't find a reference to that story. Is that something Brubaker simply made up for his story in order to give them a new home base( an abandoned tree House is fitting) or is there a story I'm missing? It's something Brubaker made up. I thought it might be. I took it as true when I first read it way back when as outside of Seasons of Mist I had never seen them but having just read the Children's Crusade I was surprised there was no demon involved. |
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Post by driver1980 on Jan 23, 2024 16:58:08 GMT -5
In a 60s Spidey comic, Parker took his photos to another paper - the Globe perhaps? - but was that paper ever mentioned or shown again?
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Post by zaku on Jan 23, 2024 17:19:19 GMT -5
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Post by Dizzy D on Jan 27, 2024 8:20:50 GMT -5
I'm now working my way through various Masters of the Universe comics over the years for a thread and I ran into something that has been confusing me since I was a kid.
In Star Comics (the Marvel comics imprint for licensed comics) Masters of the Universe #10 (1987), the heroes are attacked by two of Skeletor's minions: Blade and Saurod (both new characters that were created for the movie that was out at that time). But a few pages in, they are without any explanation switched with older minions Webstor and Kobra Khan and the story is written as the attack was done by those two all along with no mention of the original two and the whole change is never addressed in story either.
I've seen before issues that were redrawn/rewritten to change other characters that could not be used due to various reasons before publication (I remember Nicieza's Cable&Deadpool had Rictor erased from panels due to the character being moved to X-Factor at that point, but they left a speach bubble in referring to him) or issues that were later retconned some characters into being other characters all along, but I can't remember it ever seen happening within a single issue. It's not a case of the artist drawing the wrong character as both sets of villains are referred to by the correct names in the speech bubbles.
I read it in translation so maybe that something about it was said in the original American comics letter page about it?
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Post by kirby101 on Jan 27, 2024 8:53:34 GMT -5
Has Will Eisner been mentioned. He did Contract with God in his 50s, which helped bring in the age of Graphic Novels, and continued do do outstanding and mature work almost up to his death. The latter graphic novels are just as vibrant.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 27, 2024 10:28:09 GMT -5
Has Will Eisner been mentioned. (...) . |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 27, 2024 11:09:56 GMT -5
Huh? It was twenty years of work and was universally praised. Award winning to boot. I don't see what is wrong with him saying it's his best work. He was black balled by the big 2. They used to call him Barry Wind bag. He has bashed Kirby, John Buscema, and other great artists. |
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