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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 20, 2024 14:17:21 GMT -5
So what is the MMMS and why does it want us? That's the Merry Marvel Marching Society, the first Marvel fan club.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 21, 2024 6:08:34 GMT -5
I know a Blind Man shall lead them. But Daredevil isn't suppose to be blind and use his club as a cane. Should he really be walking do9wn the street in costume with a white cane? No one can say anything bad about this story to my 12 year old self. I originally read it in Marvels Greatest Comics #31, and I still love it today.
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 21, 2024 9:58:39 GMT -5
No one can say anything bad about this story to my 12 year old self. I originally read it in Marvels Greatest Comics #31, and I still love it today. I agree, and you don't have to be 12 to appreciate this as a great FF story. Here's what happened. Someone on FB pointed out that Reed and Sue's faces did not look like Kirby inked by Stone, or Wood, who inked Daredevil on this cover. There is a credit to Stan Goldberg, so he may have redrawn those heads. As I am looking at this aspect I thought "why is DD walking with a cane"? His whole deal is not acting like a blind person when he is Daredevil. Just one of those silly things you notice in the Silver Age.
The No Prize answer is the cover is metaphorical.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 21, 2024 10:28:01 GMT -5
No one can say anything bad about this story to my 12 year old self. I originally read it in Marvels Greatest Comics #31, and I still love it today. As I am looking at this aspect I thought "why is DD walking with a cane"? Checking the ground for vibrations. Like a dowsing rod for seismic shifts. Because radiation.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 21, 2024 12:14:59 GMT -5
No one can say anything bad about this story to my 12 year old self. I originally read it in Marvels Greatest Comics #31, and I still love it today. I agree, and you don't have to be 12 to appreciate this as a great FF story. Here's what happened. Someone on FB pointed out that Reed and Sue's faces did not look like Kirby inked by Stone, or Wood, who inked Daredevil on this cover. There is a credit to Stan Goldberg, so he may have redrawn those heads. As I am looking at this aspect I thought "why is DD walking with a cane"? His whole deal is not acting like a blind person when he is Daredevil. Just one of those silly things you notice in the Silver Age.
The No Prize answer is the cover is metaphorical.
Without the cane , the title doesn’t work.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 21, 2024 15:49:37 GMT -5
Since FF #39 was the first issue of that title I ever owned (a hand-me-down from my fellow Boy Scouts the Cing-Mars twins), I'm with 'bone. Don't matter what kinda trash you talk, I'm gonna love it forever.
Cei-U! I summon the personal milestone!
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Post by berkley on Feb 21, 2024 17:24:15 GMT -5
I've said this before but I'm another guy who dislikes not only variant covers but the whole idea of having one artist do the cover and a different artist the interior - though I understand that in some cases there was the practical consideration that the interior artist might not be fast enough to produce 20 pages plus a cover every month. Or you know most of 70s Marvel where Gil Kane and Jack Kirby were doing the covers for books they didn't work on or DC with Adams and Chua doing tons of covers for books they didn't work on. The idea of the interior artist being the cover artist was never truly a reality for most of comics industry, but it seems some fans have glommed on to that idea of being universally true for all comics form the era they liked when it was very much the exception and not the rule for much of the Bronze Age. And in earlier eras where comics were much more anthologies-which interior artist should have been the one doing the cover? Again, it's a snapshot of a few particular instances that fans have exaggerated into being the expected norm for all comics and then penalize comics that don't meet their unrealistic expectations It happened in some specific instances, but it was never the standard procedure for the industry as a whole, except for a very small window of time mostly stemming out of the Shooter era. -M
I don't think I ever said it was the norm, just that it was my preference, no?
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 21, 2024 17:33:26 GMT -5
My beef with cover artists is that sometimes the quality between the cover and the interior was like night and day. Adam Hughes and Brian Bolland were cover artists for some dreadful Wonder Woman issues.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 21, 2024 18:04:06 GMT -5
My beef with cover artists is that sometimes the quality between the cover and the interior was like night and day. Adam Hughes and Brian Bolland were cover artists for some dreadful Wonder Woman issues. Yeah... Many gorgeous Michael Golden covers from the 80s could qualify as false advertising!
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Post by berkley on Feb 21, 2024 21:47:39 GMT -5
My beef with cover artists is that sometimes the quality between the cover and the interior was like night and day. Adam Hughes and Brian Bolland were cover artists for some dreadful Wonder Woman issues.
All those beautiful Steranko covers: much as I love them, I think I'd rather he did a single complete 20-page comic plus cover than 21 covers for 21 comics with interior art by other artists. Not that the art was bad in every comic for which he drew only the cover - but it still wasn't Steranko.
This is another reason I like the independents, where usually creators like the Hernandezes, Clowes, etc will do the covers to their own books.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 22, 2024 9:31:52 GMT -5
My beef with cover artists is that sometimes the quality between the cover and the interior was like night and day. Adam Hughes and Brian Bolland were cover artists for some dreadful Wonder Woman issues. Yeah the The "New" Defenders issues were very guilty of this and I actually bought them all. The likes of Jackson Guice, Frank Cirocco and Kevin Nowlan; the latter being the one that really drew (pun intended) me to buy the issues in the first place.
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Post by tonebone on Feb 23, 2024 10:44:26 GMT -5
My beef with cover artists is that sometimes the quality between the cover and the interior was like night and day. Adam Hughes and Brian Bolland were cover artists for some dreadful Wonder Woman issues. Yeah the The "New" Defenders issues were very guilty of this and I actually bought them all. The likes of Jackson Guice, Frank Cirocco and Kevin Nowlan; the latter being the one that really drew (pun intended) me to buy the issues in the first place. Same here... I recently bought a trade paperback of "New Defenders", and was shocked to see how terrible they were... I, too, had bought the entire run, back in the day, just for the Nowlan, et al, covers, and had somehow remembered the series with fondness.
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 23, 2024 12:44:40 GMT -5
My beef with cover artists is that sometimes the quality between the cover and the interior was like night and day. Adam Hughes and Brian Bolland were cover artists for some dreadful Wonder Woman issues. Marvel Super Special could be the textbook example of that, where it was not uncommon to see strong representations of the movies adapted for the magazine, but the interiors were rushed, awful junk.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 24, 2024 8:49:14 GMT -5
When did the Superman titles stop connecting with triangles ?
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 24, 2024 9:44:09 GMT -5
When did the Superman titles stop connecting with triangles ? November 2001
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