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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 31, 2024 11:10:51 GMT -5
Timber Wolf, of the Legion of Super Heroes also could heal rapidly and had a big influence on how Dave Cockrum rendered Wolverine.
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Post by jason on Mar 31, 2024 15:23:45 GMT -5
What was the first mainstream comic to deal with drug addiction (I'm sure the underground ones had some stuff dealing with it too)? Was it the Spider-Man drug issues? If we count Mad, they had some pretty pointed stuff on drugs (Hippie Magazine, the "Heads you lose", "Modern Day Crucifixion" and "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" back covers) as well.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 31, 2024 15:32:26 GMT -5
What was the first mainstream comic to deal with drug addiction (I'm sure the underground ones had some stuff dealing with it too)? Was it the Spider-Man drug issues? If we count Mad, they had some pretty pointed stuff on drugs (Hippie Magazine, the "Heads you lose", "Modern Day Crucifixion" and "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" back covers) as well. I assume that you’re talking after the comics code. Because there were plenty in pre-code comics.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 31, 2024 15:41:11 GMT -5
What was the first mainstream comic to deal with drug addiction (I'm sure the underground ones had some stuff dealing with it too)? Was it the Spider-Man drug issues? If we count Mad, they had some pretty pointed stuff on drugs (Hippie Magazine, the "Heads you lose", "Modern Day Crucifixion" and "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" back covers) as well. There were crime and horror comics that dealt with drug addiction, though I think many dealt with it in a lurid way. That True Crime issue contains the notorious “Murder, Morphine and Me” story with the he needle to the eye panel that was such a focus of Wertham’ s book.
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Post by MDG on Mar 31, 2024 21:07:45 GMT -5
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 1, 2024 14:43:19 GMT -5
Released forty years ago today, included with Kenner’s Super Powers Superman figure: Mike’s Amazing World of Comics lists 23 of these mini-comics, culminating with #23 (Red Tornado). Now, there were more than 23 figures released, does that mean some figures didn’t get mini-comics?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 15:53:02 GMT -5
Mike’s Amazing World of Comics lists 23 of these mini-comics, culminating with #23 (Red Tornado). Now, there were more than 23 figures released, does that mean some figures didn’t get mini-comics? That's right, the figures from Series 1 and 2 got mini-comics, but Series 3 (Cyborg, Plastic Man, etc.) and the Clark Kent mailaway did not. I wish they would collect all of them into a reprint volume like they did with the He-Man mini-comics!
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 1, 2024 15:54:49 GMT -5
Thanks.
Yes, such a collection would be awesome. The 40th anniversary of the toyline, which is this year, is the perfect time.
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Post by Calidore on Apr 1, 2024 16:48:45 GMT -5
Comics begetting action figures that then beget their own comics.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 1, 2024 19:31:38 GMT -5
Maybe this is one for codystarbuck since it's the issue his nom de pleur debuted in, but has anyone ever commented on the fact that He-Man and Skeletor look like they're ripped right out of Jim Starlin's "Death Building" from Star*Reach #1? Our "hero" is named Steve Apollo and he has the same bowl cut as Prince Adam and he even wears a similar collared vest and to combat his skull faced nemesis he turns into a burly barbarian...only he takes acid to make the change instead of raising a power sword and calling on the power of Grayskull. But other than that the resemblance is uncanny. Did he ever raze a stink over it? This is my first read of the book and I just couldn't get over it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 1, 2024 20:44:52 GMT -5
I first read it years ago; but never really considered it. Starlin basically was doing a variation on the traditional Grim Reaper and the barbarian look was rather generic. The hairstyle is pretty standard medieval, as Prince Valiant sported the same basic style and I have seen depictions of King Arthur and/or his knights with that look. With He-Man, my mind always went to Captain Marvel, because of the transformation, not to mention a talking tiger. Filmation had done the Shazam! cartoon, just before He-Man and the Masters of the Universe launched. Those cartoons were part of the Kid Super Power Hour with Shazam!, in 1981. Mattel launched the toys in 1982, with some comic book material from DC. Don Glut (who had written Dagar The Invincible, for Gold Key, plus Tragg and the Sky Gods) was involved in the development of the toys and wrote the mini-comics that accompanied them, which developed the world and characters.
I think there are too many fantasy archetypes at play to get much of a case, in court.
As it is, the story is a variation on The Seventh Seal, from Ingmar Bergman, which, in itself, had similar influences before it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2024 21:42:37 GMT -5
Starlin would have had to have gotten in line, He-Man is Conan and Skeletor is Thulsa Doom OK, Mattel claimed that was not the case (though they WERE sued by Conan Properties, Inc. in the late 80's but Mattel won). But yeah, there's a lot of history and claims on what all the influences were. Mattel wanted to get in on the Star Wars action figure craze, and supposedly were leaning towards a Frazetta style action line. There are different claims on how it all came together, but artist and designer Mark Taylor is generally credited with influencing a lot of the early visual designs (with designer Roger Sweet claiming though that he himself actually invented the character, a whole other topic) and claims he had a personal idea from a sketch he did some years before (with a prototype-ish Skeletor looking character in the background): Taylor has famously said that Skeletor's design (which he is credited with) was influenced by what he was convinced was a real corpse he saw at at carnival as a kid (and learned many years later was in fact the case!). In any case, the mini-comics came about because unlike Star Wars, the proposed He-Man line had no media tie-in so they had to invent something so kids would have some background on who the characters were. And supposedly when they still weren't sure the pitch was going to work, they told Mattel "oh, did we tell you there's a cartoon in the works?" Which there wasn't, but with the green light given based on that, it came to be! So many other comparisons can and have been made beyond Conan, you've got Mighty Mightor, Thundarr, etc. I think lots of gray space and repeating themes when it comes to all of these fantasy barbarian type properties along the lines of what codystarbuck said.
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Post by tonebone on Apr 2, 2024 10:47:37 GMT -5
I always felt there was some Herculoids and Thundarr in the design of He-Man as well.... especially in the "Barbarian fantasy meets technology" tone...
I do love the fact that they purposefully went larger, and chunkier with the figures to encourage more "smash em up" type play, rather than the delicate size of the Star Wars and other figure lines. I was "too old" for He-Man, but used to be slightly jealous of the little kid my mom babysat and his collection of the figures... Their designs were so fun and imaginative.
To this day, I still want a "Warlord" He-Man knockoff figure.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Apr 2, 2024 11:37:13 GMT -5
I always felt there was some Herculoids and Thundarr in the design of He-Man as well.... especially in the "Barbarian fantasy meets technology" tone... I do love the fact that they purposefully went larger, and chunkier with the figures to encourage more "smash em up" type play, rather than the delicate size of the Star Wars and other figure lines. I was "too old" for He-Man, but used to be slightly jealous of the little kid my mom babysat and his collection of the figures... Their designs were so fun and imaginative. To this day, I still want a "Warlord" He-Man knockoff figure. you mean these? -M
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Post by tonebone on Apr 2, 2024 13:28:58 GMT -5
I always felt there was some Herculoids and Thundarr in the design of He-Man as well.... especially in the "Barbarian fantasy meets technology" tone... I do love the fact that they purposefully went larger, and chunkier with the figures to encourage more "smash em up" type play, rather than the delicate size of the Star Wars and other figure lines. I was "too old" for He-Man, but used to be slightly jealous of the little kid my mom babysat and his collection of the figures... Their designs were so fun and imaginative. To this day, I still want a "Warlord" He-Man knockoff figure. you mean these? -M Yassir... I must have seen them in the store a hundred times, but I was "too old" to buy them without embarrassment... stupid me.
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