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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 2, 2024 14:12:11 GMT -5
Remco used the same body molds for figures within the line for several action figure lines (not necessarily the same mold across lines, but the same within the specific line). They did figures for Pro Wrestling USA (a combination of the AWA promotion, in Minnesota and a couple of NWA promotions, mainly the Carolinas, before the group stopped cooperating and it became just another AWA tv product) with pretty much the same mold for every wrestler, with different heads.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 3, 2024 16:41:41 GMT -5
I figured it was probably a coincidence but man was it striking none the less.
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Post by berkley on Apr 4, 2024 0:22:13 GMT -5
This is a question of opinion rather than of fact but anyway, seeing all the Oskner covers in this week's Cove Contest thread, I'm reminded once again that this (edit: Angel and the Ape) looks like a fun comic. My question is, do the interior stories and artwork match the spirit of the covers? And even if they do, was that enough to build a series on?
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Post by Confessor on Apr 4, 2024 0:50:45 GMT -5
This is a question of opinion rather than of fact but anyway, seeing all the Oskner covers in this week's Cove Contest thread, I'm reminded once again that this looks like a fun comic. My question is, do the interior stories and artwork match the spirit of the covers? And even if they do, was that enough to build a series on? Which comic?!  |
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Post by berkley on Apr 4, 2024 1:25:17 GMT -5
This is a question of opinion rather than of fact but anyway, seeing all the Oskner covers in this week's Cove Contest thread, I'm reminded once again that this looks like a fun comic. My question is, do the interior stories and artwork match the spirit of the covers? And even if they do, was that enough to build a series on? Which comic?! Sorry, Angel and the Ape - though now that you mention it, some of the others look fun too. |
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Post by Confessor on Apr 4, 2024 2:20:00 GMT -5
Which comic?! Sorry, Angel and the Ape - though now that you mention it, some of the others look fun too. I love Angel and the Ape. I'm trying to put together a complete run which is actually pretty hard over here in the UK, despite the entire Silver Age series only being 8 issues long (including Showcase #77). Currently, I own exactly half the series. The Oksner art inside is very much like the covers (he's inked by Wally Wood on several issues too) and the stories are full of 60s era whimsy. The humour is very gentle by today's standards, as you might expect, but it can still produce the odd chortle from me. Really though, it's a combination of the really likeable lead characters of Sam Simeon and Angel O'Day, Oksner's gorgeous art, and the kitschy, often surreal '60s madcap humour (think The Monkees TV show) that are the real draw. The actual plots are totally forgettable. |
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Post by Farrar on Apr 4, 2024 16:19:46 GMT -5
What was the first mainstream comic to deal with drug addiction (I'm sure the underground ones had some stuff dealing with it too)? Was it the Spider-Man drug issues? If we count Mad, they had some pretty pointed stuff on drugs (Hippie Magazine, the "Heads you lose", "Modern Day Crucifixion" and "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" back covers) as well. Fwiw Jim Shooter wrote an addiction story that appeared in Action #378, cover-dated July 1969 (so, a couple of years before Spider-Man and GL/GA), in which Timber Wolf becomes addicted to the lotus fruit. And yes, in the story itself DC fully acknowledges the debt to the lotus fruit episode from Homer's Odyssey. This is back when the Legion was crammed into a few pages as the second feature in Action, so the story is a mere 9.5 pages long and has Brin licking his addiction in record time (a done-in-one story).  The art by Win Mortimer and Mike Esposito is pretty pedestrian, and since the story takes place in the 30th century--and since it involves a centuries-old narcotic that had been immortalized in a well-known work of art, instead of pills or LSD--it flew under the radar...but Shooter's intention was clear. |
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Post by berkley on Apr 4, 2024 19:56:20 GMT -5
Anyone read Tim Conrad's Etc. ?
I never heard of it until today. According to the credits he wrote it and did the layouts with someone else finishing the art - I wasn't able to find any interior page samples so no idea how it looks. Conrad changed his style from time to time even when not inked or finished by another artist, so I'm a bit leery of this one until I see more.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 4, 2024 20:21:40 GMT -5
What was the first mainstream comic to deal with drug addiction (I'm sure the underground ones had some stuff dealing with it too)? Was it the Spider-Man drug issues? If we count Mad, they had some pretty pointed stuff on drugs (Hippie Magazine, the "Heads you lose", "Modern Day Crucifixion" and "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" back covers) as well. Fwiw Jim Shooter wrote an addiction story that appeared in Action #378, cover-dated July 1969 (so, a couple of years before Spider-Man and GL/GA), in which Timber Wolf becomes addicted to the lotus fruit. And yes, in the story itself DC fully acknowledges the debt to the lotus fruit episode from Homer's Odyssey. This is back when the Legion was crammed into a few pages as the second feature in Action, so the story is a mere 9.5 pages long and has Brin licking his addiction in record time (a done-in-one story). The art by Win Mortimer and Mike Esposito is pretty pedestrian, and since the story takes place in the 30th century--and since it involves a centuries-old narcotic that had been immortalized in a well-known work of art, instead of pills or LSD--it flew under the radar...but Shooter's intention was clear. I remember Speedy licking his addiction in record time also.  |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 4, 2024 21:04:09 GMT -5
Fwiw Jim Shooter wrote an addiction story that appeared in Action #378, cover-dated July 1969 (so, a couple of years before Spider-Man and GL/GA), in which Timber Wolf becomes addicted to the lotus fruit. And yes, in the story itself DC fully acknowledges the debt to the lotus fruit episode from Homer's Odyssey. This is back when the Legion was crammed into a few pages as the second feature in Action, so the story is a mere 9.5 pages long and has Brin licking his addiction in record time (a done-in-one story). The art by Win Mortimer and Mike Esposito is pretty pedestrian, and since the story takes place in the 30th century--and since it involves a centuries-old narcotic that had been immortalized in a well-known work of art, instead of pills or LSD--it flew under the radar...but Shooter's intention was clear. I remember Speedy licking his addiction in record time also. No exactly. He detoxifies, cold turkey, with Dinah's help, but, later stories referred to the process of dealing with addiction. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 5, 2024 5:13:30 GMT -5
I remember Speedy licking his addiction in record time also. No exactly. He detoxifies, cold turkey, with Dinah's help, but, later stories referred to the process of dealing with addiction. Sarcasm man, sarcasm. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 5, 2024 7:21:55 GMT -5
If we could all lick it as fast as Tony Stark there wouldn't be no AA.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Apr 5, 2024 16:21:13 GMT -5
Anyone read Tim Conrad's Etc. ? I never heard of it until today. According to the credits he wrote it and did the layouts with someone else finishing the art - I wasn't able to find any interior page samples so no idea how it looks. Conrad changed his style from time to time even when not inked or finished by another artist, so I'm a bit leery of this one until I see more. I read some of it at the time, but wasn't impressed. The art by Michael Davis, perhaps better known as one of the founders of Milestone, made everything look nebulous and translucent, to the detriment of the storytelling. The Lambiek entry on Davis shows a couple of panels from Etc. link |
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Post by MWGallaher on Apr 5, 2024 17:31:40 GMT -5
Anyone read Tim Conrad's Etc. ? I never heard of it until today. According to the credits he wrote it and did the layouts with someone else finishing the art - I wasn't able to find any interior page samples so no idea how it looks. Conrad changed his style from time to time even when not inked or finished by another artist, so I'm a bit leery of this one until I see more. I wasn't able to register the story, because the art was absolutely unbearable. Michael Davis was clearly relying on lots of photo reference and failing even with that aid. I was baffled that an artist so obviously not ready for the big leagues was given such a (relatively) high profile project. And then he was assigned a higher profile Prestige Format spin-off of the then-very-hot Grell Green Arrow series, which was partly saved by Gray Morrow's finishes. Unfortunately, Morrow's contributions couldn't make up for Davis's page composition choice that ruined virtually every page of the comic: Each left-right pair of pages has art spanning the center line, which was rendered unreadable thanks to the square-bound binding. |
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Post by berkley on Apr 5, 2024 18:58:29 GMT -5
Anyone read Tim Conrad's Etc. ? I never heard of it until today. According to the credits he wrote it and did the layouts with someone else finishing the art - I wasn't able to find any interior page samples so no idea how it looks. Conrad changed his style from time to time even when not inked or finished by another artist, so I'm a bit leery of this one until I see more. I wasn't able to register the story, because the art was absolutely unbearable. Michael Davis was clearly relying on lots of photo reference and failing even with that aid. I was baffled that an artist so obviously not ready for the big leagues was given such a (relatively) high profile project. And then he was assigned a higher profile Prestige Format spin-off of the then-very-hot Grell Green Arrow series, which was partly saved by Gray Morrow's finishes. Unfortunately, Morrow's contributions couldn't make up for Davis's page composition choice that ruined virtually every page of the comic: Each left-right pair of pages has art spanning the center line, which was rendered unreadable thanks to the square-bound binding.
Thanks, and thanks Chaykinstevens for that link. Looks like I'll hold off on this one. I'd like to find as much of Conrad's comics work as possible but I find his career a bit puzzling as he didn't produce much and it's scattered all over the place. But this one will drop to the bottom of the list, if it doesn't drop out of it altogether.
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