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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2024 10:42:00 GMT -5
Anyone know why books with Dave Stevens covers are selling for anywhere around 5x to 10x what they were going for a few years ago?
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Apr 21, 2024 10:50:16 GMT -5
Anyone know why books with Dave Stevens covers are selling for anywhere around 5x to 10x what they were going for a few years ago? The trend of increase started before this, but the recent documentary about Dave that aired on Prime increased his profile and fueled demand for his work. Increased demand means prices rise. His stuff was always harder to find, as dealers who knew what they were about would pull his covers out of runs they put out and charge a little more for them (for example DNAgents #24-I had the entire run except that issue but it took me 3 years to find a #24 because of the Stevens cover and I needed up paying $5 for it instead of the 25 cents to a dollar I spent on the other issues of the run, a year after I got it, it was going for $20ish then the documentary hit and now it's even more). There was always demand for his stuff, and it was undervalued in the market for long while. Stevens collectors and smart dealers were snapping it up and holding it waiting for a market correction. That correction was taking place already, and the crowdfunding for the documentary was fueled by the interest in the market, and its crowdfunding campaign itself was enough to create a surge of interest which helped that market correction along, but when the doc actually dropped, there was a huge surge in interest which has led to prices increasing rapidly at the levels you are noticing. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2024 10:58:56 GMT -5
Awesome, those Alien World covers with Aurora were $3 a few years ago, now I'm seeing one listed for $75!
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Apr 21, 2024 11:07:01 GMT -5
Yeah it was process. I had dealer friends who were putting the covers out at $5 when many were still in dollar bins and couldn't keep them in stock. So they raised them to $10 and still couldn't keep them in stock, so up to $15, same deal, $20 same, and so prices were rising. Then the doc dropped and even more people were looking for them, so prices shot up. There's 2 covers I don't have that I wanted Space Vixens and Planet Stories and both were going in the $50-$75 range before the documentary. I can't touch them now.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2024 11:12:41 GMT -5
Yeah it was process. I had dealer friends who were putting the covers out at $5 when many were still in dollar bins and couldn't keep them in stock. So they raised them to $10 and still couldn't keep them in stock, so up to $15, same deal, $20 same, and so prices were rising. Then the doc dropped and even more people were looking for them, so prices shot up. There's 2 covers I don't have that I wanted Space Vixens and Planet Stories and both were going in the $50-$75 range before the documentary. I can't touch them now. -M
I'm glad I bought 2 of Space Vixens when I did....I paid under $25 each at the time (auction luck, both NM) and it took me a while to realise they were listed under 3-D Zone and not Space Vixens...but the cover for that and Vanguard #2 are my faves.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 21, 2024 12:08:18 GMT -5
It might be also that he has a limited amount of work produced. Personally, I feel that Frank Cho and Adam Hughes are on par with Stevens work.
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Post by Marv-El on Apr 21, 2024 13:35:23 GMT -5
Breyfogle did the first six issues, which was "The Last Arkham" story and and a pair of standalone stories. Tim Sale then did the art for the next 4 or 5 issues. "The Last Arkham" ran for the first four issues and I highly recommend it. It introduces Jerimiah Arkham and Victor Zsasz; features some beautiful Norm Breyfogle artwork as he gets to spend time with various members of Batman's rogues gallery (though, not perhaps as much as you might think such a storyline would), and is just a strong story on its own merits. Unfortunately, Breyfogle doesn't stick around long. He draws issue five which is a standalone Black Spider tale which I recall being neither great nor bad, issue six has Dan Jurgens doing art duty and though my memory is hazy on that one, I do retain a sense of it being pretty ham fisted and not worth looking at again. Issues 7-9 ("The Misfits") is fantastic and has Tim Sale on art. One of those very stylish stories where both Grant and Sale are at the top of the game since they know they have something special going on. Issue 10 I have a certain fondness for since it reads like a Gothic Batman story from 20 years prior - an old man summons a group of people to his isolated castle ostensibly for dinner, but in truth, intends to confront them for the roles he feels that they played in the death of his child years earlier. Issue 11-12 involves Mortimer Kadaver - a fun character whom I wish Grant has used more - in a story which I think would have benefited from Breyfogle's artwork. Vince Giarrano handles art chores and its not bad, but again, not one I recall too well. "The Nobody" is a standalone issue which does feature Breyfogle on art. A dying homeless man reaches Wayne Enterprises where he tells our hero that he knows his secret. While he won't be able to do anything with that info very soon, unfortunately, he's already told someone who intends to auction Batman's identity off to the underworld that evening. Had the idea been fleshed out more, it could have been a classic. As it is, it's a decent filler. After that, there's a Joe Staton two-parter before the series just becomes "Part Four of KnightQuest/Part Two of KnightsSend/Part Seven of..." Breyfogle returns to do the opening pages of issue 50 and and all of 65-67 which is always fun. Thanks to everyone for the responses. I lucked up, visited one of my LCS yesterday, digging through their dollar bins and came across Shadow of the Bat #7-8, #44 so now got a bit of a starting point with the series. |
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Post by commond on Apr 23, 2024 4:30:39 GMT -5
What's the most interesting conversation in this picture?  |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 24, 2024 7:20:23 GMT -5
theres quite a few characters in there I don't know, but I think on the left... with Doug and Bone watching.. whoever that is jumping down and the big monstery guy watching a bit away.
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Post by tonebone on Apr 24, 2024 9:56:41 GMT -5
What's the most interesting conversation in this picture? Upper right, Rocketeer, Flaming Carrot and Cerebus. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 24, 2024 12:16:04 GMT -5
Lower right: Luba and Major Gruber, from The Airtight Garage of Jerry Cornelius.
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Post by zaku on Apr 25, 2024 5:29:35 GMT -5
I tried asking ChatGPT this question and of course it answered rubbish. What was the first kiss between two women in a Marvel comic (I mean set in the Marvel universe)? I think someone here mentioned a Graphic Novel with Black Widow but I'm not sure...
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Post by foxley on Apr 25, 2024 6:33:24 GMT -5
I tried asking ChatGPT this question and of course it answered rubbish. What was the first kiss between two women in a Marvel comic (I mean set in the Marvel universe)? I think someone here mentioned a Graphic Novel with Black Widow but I'm not sure... I believe Victoria Montessi was Marvel's first openly lesbian character. I'm trying to remember if she is shown kissing another woman in Darkhold, but most of my comic collection is in storage at the moment so I can't check. Perhaps someone else can. |
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 7:06:27 GMT -5
I tried asking ChatGPT this question and of course it answered rubbish. What was the first kiss between two women in a Marvel comic (I mean set in the Marvel universe)? I think someone here mentioned a Graphic Novel with Black Widow but I'm not sure... I believe Victoria Montessi was Marvel's first openly lesbian character. I'm trying to remember if she is shown kissing another woman in Darkhold, but most of my comic collection is in storage at the moment so I can't check. Perhaps someone else can. You know, Google is great for telling in which issue a certain character came out, but not for when there was the first public display of affection. In some ways I think it's equally important. Straight superheroes have been kissing damsels in distress forever. |
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Post by Confessor on Apr 27, 2024 8:20:50 GMT -5
I think someone here mentioned a Graphic Novel with Black Widow but I'm not sure... This could be referring to the old Golden Age Black Widow (Claire Voyant). In his 2008 mini-series The Twelve, J. Michael Straczinsky retconned her to be a lesbian and there were definitely scenes depicting her kissing another woman. Maybe that was the first time Marvel showed a lesbian kiss? Although 2008 sounds a bit late for that, but then again, maybe not. |
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