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Post by Jesse on Jul 31, 2024 23:01:34 GMT -5
I believe that was his family's symbol on his home planet. It stands for Hope 😅 |
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Post by foxley on Aug 1, 2024 3:26:55 GMT -5
Do we know what the S on Jughead's sweater stand for? I saw stories where Betty & Veronica speculated about it, but never saw an official explanation. Even the A.I.s have no clue! I believe it stands for Skunk Hill, a location in Haverhill, Massachusetts; the town where Bob Montana attended high school and the original model for Riverdale. Montana then changed this to Squirrel Hill, leading to the Squirrel Hill Independent Tigers joke commond mentioned earlier; there being no safe way to abbreviate that name except as a sing capital 'S'. (The Tigers were Montana's elementary school athletics team; also in Haverhill.) |
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 1, 2024 4:24:25 GMT -5
Do we know what the S on Jughead's sweater stand for? I saw stories where Betty & Veronica speculated about it, but never saw an official explanation. Even the A.I.s have no clue! I believe that was his family's symbol on his home planet. Brilliant!
Cei-U! I summon the accolades!
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Post by jason on Aug 8, 2024 20:51:14 GMT -5
Is there a list of comic artists/writers who wrote (monthly, no mini series or one-shots here) comics for two separate companies at the same time? The practice always intrigued me, but I dont want to start a whole thread about it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 8, 2024 21:28:05 GMT -5
Is there a list of comic artists/writers who wrote (monthly, no mini series or one-shots here) comics for two separate companies at the same time? The practice always intrigued me, but I dont want to start a whole thread about it. Perez did it for a bit, when New Teen Titans started, and I believe Gerry Conway had books at DC and Marvel, for a brief time. Sometimes it is just overlap , when starting at the other company. Perez continued some of the work he was doing, when New Teen Titans started, before going exclusive with DC, thanks to issues with Jim Shooter. Mike Grell was credited as writer of Warlord, when Jon Sable started, for three more issues, though it was written by his wife, Sharon. Alan Moore was writing Swamp Thig for DC and continuing Miracleman, at Eclipse, when the latter finally caught up with the material originally printed in Warrior. He was also still writing Marvelman/Miracleman and V For Vendetta, in Warrior, when he took over Swamp Thing and did so, for about another year and a half. He might have still been doing other comics in the UK; but I don't know enough about his timelines for his 2000 AD work and Captain Britain. Neil Gaiman took over writing Miracleman, while writing Sandman. I did a quick check to see if Matt Wagner was still writing Sandman Mystery Theater, when Mage II started up, but it looks like Steven T Seagle was solo, at that point. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 8, 2024 21:35:30 GMT -5
ps Jim Starlin was still writing Dreadstar, when he was writing Batman.
So far, of the ones I can think of, Perez was the only one not mixing creator-owned, with work-for-hire at another company, as Gaiman and Mark Buckingham were assigned Alan Moore's portion of Miracleman (later proven void, when Mick Anglo produced proof of ownership and sold to Marvel).
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Aug 8, 2024 23:38:41 GMT -5
Didn't Gene Colan moonlight at Marvel as Adam Austin while doing a regular gig at DC (perhaps on a romance book), using the pseudonym so he wouldn't lose work at DC? A couple of inkers did the same thing around that time too iirc. Mickey Demeo/Mike Esposito was one I think.
More recently Greg Rucka maintained several creator-owned books while he worked for both Marvel and DC. Queen and Country ran from 2001-2007 spanning both his time on Elektra 2001-2002 and Wolverine 2003-2004 for Marvel and then his time at DC on Gotham Central 2003-2006, Wonder Woman 2003-2006, Adventures of Superman (2004-2006) and then Checkmate 2006-2008 and 52 in 2006-2007.
He would then be doing his Lazarus series at Image (2013-2018) and Black Magick (2015-2017) while doing Wonder Woman at DC as part of the rebirth initiative in 2016 and runs on Cyclops and the Sam Wilson Cap series (2014-2016).
-M
PS all while he was churning out various novels and a series of mini-series for his creator owned Stumptown and doing screenwirting for his creator-owned projects that got optioned (like Stumptown) and for other projects.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Aug 8, 2024 23:42:11 GMT -5
Kurt Busiek was writing Conan for Dark Horse, his creator-owned Astro City stuff (technically at Wildstorm but still part of DC after it was acquired by DC) and Avengers for Marvel (and Iron Man for a time too) at the same time as well.
-M
PS to add, it's probably easier for writers to do this because they can do multiple projects at once, it's a rarer artist who can do more than 1 book in a month.
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Aug 8, 2024 23:57:58 GMT -5
Len Wein wrote for both DC (Swamp Thing, JLA, etc) and Marvel (Defenders, Marvel Team Up, Brother Voodoo, etc) for nearly 2 years between 1973 and 1975, before fully committing to Marvel
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 9, 2024 0:35:25 GMT -5
Thing is, for a freelancer, its much easier. However, there were periods and companies where working for the other company was frowned upon. Don't quote me; but, I think that was part of the situation with Colan and Esposito.
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Post by Rob Allen on Aug 9, 2024 2:23:01 GMT -5
In the Silver Age, DC and Archie were known for wanting their freelancers to be exclusive. Several artists used pseudonyms for their first Marvel work. You already mentioned a couple:
Gene Colan - Adam Austin
Mike Esposito - Mickey Demeo
Frank Giacoia - Frankie Ray
George Roussos - George Bell
Jack Abel - Gary Michaels
Gil Kane - Scott Edward
And of course George Klein was completely uncredited for his inking on the first two issues of Fantastic Four.
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Post by commond on Aug 9, 2024 3:09:36 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure there was a point where Mike Baron was writing The Flash, Punisher and Nexus. John Ostrander wrote DC ongoing titles while still working on Grimjack. Peter David wrote for both Marvel and DC at the same time. David Michelinie began writing for DC at the tail end of his Amazing Spider-Man run. I feel like J.M. DeMatteis was definitely writing for both Marvel and DC at various points.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 9, 2024 4:29:40 GMT -5
In the Silver Age, DC and Archie were known for wanting their freelancers to be exclusive. Several artists used pseudonyms for their first Marvel work. You already mentioned a couple: Gene Colan - Adam Austin Mike Esposito - Mickey Demeo Frank Giacoia - Frankie Ray George Roussos - George Bell Jack Abel - Gary Michaels Gil Kane - Scott Edward And of course George Klein was completely uncredited for his inking on the first two issues of Fantastic Four. A good start at a complete list, lacking only Werner Roth - Jay Gavin and Jack Katz - Jay Hawk. There were also a handful of writers who chose the pen name route in those early days, some less subtle than others:
Jerry Siegel - Joe Carter Ernie Hart - H.E. Huntley Don Rico - N. Korok
Robert Bernstein - R. Burns (ooh, good disguise there, Bob!)
Also, Esposito later used the pseudonym Joe Gaudioso.
Cei-U! - Kurt Mitchell
I summon the alter egos!
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Post by kirby101 on Aug 9, 2024 7:53:15 GMT -5
The inkers could be discerned by their styles, but the artists were obvious to anyone with eyes. Don't know who they were fooling?
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 9, 2024 8:30:35 GMT -5
The inkers could be discerned by their styles, but the artists were obvious to anyone with eyes. Don't know who they were fooling? "It's not my fault this new guy at Marvel swiped my style!"
Cei-U!
I summon the implausible deniability!
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