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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2024 9:30:21 GMT -5
I find I have alot more luck with 'buy it now' items on ebay these days than auctions. You really have to be live online at the end of the auction to win any that have competing bids. I generally compare ebay's going rate with mycomicshop and mile high and buy where I get the better deal.
If there's only a buy it now option, I still sometimes 'fudge' and send an offer, especially if it's been listed for some time. And sometimes it works.
Other times, I put the item on my watch list and then wait like a vulture for 24 hours to see if I'll be sent an offer.
And then rarely, if it's a really scarce item, I just buy it and grumble.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2024 9:42:14 GMT -5
Maybe the situation is better in the US than UK... if there was a book worth $40 on there, no way would the starting bid be below $30. Maybe it would be $60, getting relisted for the next 5 years, more likely 😅
I do use ebay.uk sometimes, not just because I'm also a Brit but sometimes the UK produced books are easier to find there.
On some occassions, US variants are cheaper in England, even after factoring shipping. I got one of these for £13.00 from a Londoner...after shipping, closer to £22.00, but in the US....closer to US$60
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Oct 14, 2024 11:14:48 GMT -5
I just picked up a copy of Detective 583 on ebay last night via auction. It's the 1st app of the Ventriloquist & Scarface, and regularly sells around $30-40 in mid to high grade. This auction started with an opening bid of 99 cent and I won with a $15 bid.
There's lots of stuff that starts at bids of 99 cents, $1.49, $2.49 etc. It's a matter of taking the time to look, finding a group of reliable sellers and adding them to your saved searches, etc. The largest factor in pricing though is shipping rates. A lot of books can double or triple in price because of shipping, especially when you are getting books in the $1-5 range and not buying multiple books from the seller. I have a handful of sellers that start 90% of their books at 99 cents (the rest are usually slabbed books wit buy it nows that I have no interest in) including books from the 50s-current (I've picked up a few Toth issues of Four Color from the 50s from them over the last couple of years that had starting bids of 99 cents).
I don't buy from ebay all that often (maybe 6-8 times in a year) but I have a set of saved searches and saved sellers that I peruse to see if anything of interest comes up in the price range I prefer. I do use ebay to scan sold prices for some of the books on my want list so I have a reference for them when I am at shows or back issue hunting to determine if a price is fair, a bargain, or overpriced. I hadn't used ebay in years, I sold a lot of comics there circa 1998-2006, but took a break and didn't really use it again until the pandemic. It's certainly changed over the years, but then so has the back issue market as a whole because time passed, nothing is ever static unless its dead, and the only constant is change, however there are still bargains to be found if one know how and where to look.
That said, I think the biggest reason large lots are no longer offered on ebay as often as they used to be has more to do with the USPS than ebay or anything else. Postal rates for large boxes, even for flat rate boxes, increased exponentially in the past decade and a half. Shipping for such lots now runs anywhere from $20-40 depending on size, if it fits in a flat rate box or not, and where its being shipped. No one wants to buy a cheap lot of 10-20 books for $5 and have it end up costing them $25-$40 once shipping is calculated. Also in the last 20 years, US tax regulations have been altered and ebay sellers now have to charge and pay sales tax on what they sell, so the total cost for the buyer on those lots (and single books) are going to be higher. Add tax and shipping to the cheap lots, and they became unattractive to both buyers and sellers.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2024 11:56:30 GMT -5
That said, I think the biggest reason large lots are no longer offered on ebay as often as they used to be has more to do with the USPS than ebay or anything else. Postal rates for large boxes, even for flat rate boxes, increased exponentially in the past decade and a half. Shipping for such lots now runs anywhere from $20-40 depending on size, if it fits in a flat rate box or not, and where its being shipped. No one wants to buy a cheap lot of 10-20 books for $5 and have it end up costing them $25-$40 once shipping is calculated. Also in the last 20 years, US tax regulations have been altered and ebay sellers now have to charge and pay sales tax on what they sell, so the total cost for the buyer on those lots (and single books) are going to be higher. Add tax and shipping to the cheap lots, and they became unattractive to both buyers and sellers.
Some sellers still get around this by using Media Mail, esp if the books are older, although the PO can beeyotch about this if they get nosey.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 14, 2024 12:19:07 GMT -5
There’s a science fiction magazine published here, although it does ship worldwide. The editor is trying to encourage foreign subscribers to go digital because he says that Royal Mail’s postage costs are meaning there is very little, if any, profit on mailing out magazines to the likes of Australia.
It’s a shame. I know Royal Mail (or any country’s postal service) has to make a profit, I get that, but it does seem a lot of small businesses, publishers and the like are struggling. And not just with worldwide mailings, but internal mailings, too. Magazines seem to be a dying business here, but what doesn’t help are huge postage costs.
Honestly, put comics aside for a moment, I worry for the future of magazines. Very few small stores here stock them; the corner shop by me stopped even newspapers a while back, he now has a Wall’s ice cream freezer in place of where the newspapers and magazines used to be. Some corner shops have stopped selling periodicals, altogether. Supermarkets often have a token selection of magazines, but even they seem to be stocking fewer titles - and the titles they do stock are mainstream ones, e.g. railways, gossip magazines and car magazines. Niche publications (e.g. retro sci-fi) won’t really be found there.
Which only leaves one game in town here: WHSmith. However, some publishers have claimed that not only do WHSmith take a percentage of sales (which is understandable), but also charge “rental space” on their shelves for top titles (that doesn’t seem fair). That is why some niche publications don’t even end up on the shelves of WHSmith.
It’s sad, but I feel unless you’re a car magazine, railway magazine or football (soccer) magazine, you’ve got no chance. It’s also been years since I’ve seen comics - UK or US - in any kind of greengrocers or corner shop.
So, subscriptions are probably the only way forward for publishers, especially niche ones, but if the likes of Royal Mail are making postal costs prohibitive, well I wonder if we’ll end up in a world without magazines.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2024 12:27:14 GMT -5
I have a friend in Australia who used to cry when it came to paying shipping rates for CGC graded slabs from the US.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Oct 14, 2024 13:04:28 GMT -5
That said, I think the biggest reason large lots are no longer offered on ebay as often as they used to be has more to do with the USPS than ebay or anything else. Postal rates for large boxes, even for flat rate boxes, increased exponentially in the past decade and a half. Shipping for such lots now runs anywhere from $20-40 depending on size, if it fits in a flat rate box or not, and where its being shipped. No one wants to buy a cheap lot of 10-20 books for $5 and have it end up costing them $25-$40 once shipping is calculated. Also in the last 20 years, US tax regulations have been altered and ebay sellers now have to charge and pay sales tax on what they sell, so the total cost for the buyer on those lots (and single books) are going to be higher. Add tax and shipping to the cheap lots, and they became unattractive to both buyers and sellers. Some sellers still get around this by using Media Mail, esp if the books are older, although the PO can beeyotch about this if they get nosey.
When I was selling, the clerk at our local post office checked every media mail package to make sue there were no periodicals in it, so I couldn't use Media Mail unless I was selling trades, and even that was iffy. The other issue with Media (and this may have changed) it didn't come with tracking or insurance, and once you paid for those it was almost as expensive as priority (whose price included those features) and if something happened to the package en route, you wouldn't know w/o tracking and were out the cost of whatever you were selling plus what you paid for shipping as you would have to refund the seller and eat the loss (and likely get negative feedback because of it all. You also had to pay for the boxes used with media where priority boxes were free, which also added to the cost of media shipping that you couldn't pass on to the customer without risking negative or neutral feedback. So weighing all the risk/reward elements, I usually opted for Priority rather than Media to avoid all the other risk and cost factors even if it was a little more expensive. But a lot of sellers don't consider costs beyond the actual difference in price of shipping and buyers never consider that when requesting media mail to save a few bucks. -M
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Post by Calidore on Oct 14, 2024 13:59:47 GMT -5
Some sellers still get around this by using Media Mail, esp if the books are older, although the PO can beeyotch about this if they get nosey.
When I was selling, the clerk at our local post office checked every media mail package to make sue there were no periodicals in it, so I couldn't use Media Mail unless I was selling trades, and even that was iffy. The other issue with Media (and this may have changed) it didn't come with tracking or insurance, and once you paid for those it was almost as expensive as priority (whose price included those features) and if something happened to the package en route, you wouldn't know w/o tracking and were out the cost of whatever you were selling plus what you paid for shipping as you would have to refund the seller and eat the loss (and likely get negative feedback because of it all. You also had to pay for the boxes used with media where priority boxes were free, which also added to the cost of media shipping that you couldn't pass on to the customer without risking negative or neutral feedback. So weighing all the risk/reward elements, I usually opted for Priority rather than Media to avoid all the other risk and cost factors even if it was a little more expensive. But a lot of sellers don't consider costs beyond the actual difference in price of shipping and buyers never consider that when requesting media mail to save a few bucks. -M Another problem I ran into with Media Mail is that the employees who "inspect" the packages will freely steal from them with no real recourse that I ever found. This happened in both directions, both mail from me and to me. So when I was ebaying much of my collection, I finally had to start putting a disclaimer in my listings that my default shipping was Priority Mail, and I would ship Media Mail on request but at the purchaser's risk.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2024 14:23:09 GMT -5
When I was selling, the clerk at our local post office checked every media mail package to make sue there were no periodicals in it, so I couldn't use Media Mail unless I was selling trades, and even that was iffy. The other issue with Media (and this may have changed) it didn't come with tracking or insurance, and once you paid for those it was almost as expensive as priority (whose price included those features) and if something happened to the package en route, you wouldn't know w/o tracking and were out the cost of whatever you were selling plus what you paid for shipping as you would have to refund the seller and eat the loss (and likely get negative feedback because of it all. You also had to pay for the boxes used with media where priority boxes were free, which also added to the cost of media shipping that you couldn't pass on to the customer without risking negative or neutral feedback. So weighing all the risk/reward elements, I usually opted for Priority rather than Media to avoid all the other risk and cost factors even if it was a little more expensive. But a lot of sellers don't consider costs beyond the actual difference in price of shipping and buyers never consider that when requesting media mail to save a few bucks.
I've been fortunate to have only one incident with media mail in all my years of ebaying. The seller found all her packages torn open and returned to her on her porch...someone in her PO definitely had it out for her. She apologised to me and offered to refund my money but I told her don't worry and I just paid for priority shipping. The value of what I purchased from her more than compensated for tossing another tenner or so.
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Post by rich on Oct 14, 2024 14:51:19 GMT -5
It only costs 7-10x on eBay or mile high. If you go to comic shops or comic shows , many books are in dollar bins or way below what eBay is asking. In a few days I'll test that theory in a comic shop that sells a lot of back issues in London. In the past, UK comic shop back issues were worse than ordering online from America, inc postage...
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Post by rich on Oct 14, 2024 14:54:02 GMT -5
I There's lots of stuff that starts at bids of 99 cents, $1.49, $2.49 etc. -M If you definite 'a lot' as "a teeny weeny minuscule fraction, in proportion to what there previously was" then sure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2024 15:17:33 GMT -5
In a few days I'll test that theory in a comic shop that sells a lot of back issues in London. In the past, UK comic shop back issues were worse than ordering online from America, inc postage...
Some of them definitely are.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Oct 14, 2024 15:48:40 GMT -5
I There's lots of stuff that starts at bids of 99 cents, $1.49, $2.49 etc. -M If you definite 'a lot' as "a teeny weeny minuscule fraction, in proportion to what there previously was" then sure. Well when I looked the other night there were over 400 comic lots starting under $3. Less sure, but not an insignificant amount either. There wee even several score of "penny starts" last time I looked as well. So sure, there are less, but there are less places selling penny candy now too. Time has passed, prices have gone up. The world and the market isn't static and isn't frozen in amber when we were young so it's the same now that we are old. The only constant is change, and prices rarely rarely go done. I'm not sure I can name one market, let alone a collectibles market, where prices are the same as it was 20 years ago. Why would you expect someone to be selling things as if it were 2004 in 2024 in any market? That seems to be a problem with expectations, not the current state or reality. -M
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 14, 2024 21:51:15 GMT -5
There’s a science fiction magazine published here, although it does ship worldwide. The editor is trying to encourage foreign subscribers to go digital because he says that Royal Mail’s postage costs are meaning there is very little, if any, profit on mailing out magazines to the likes of Australia. It’s a shame. I know Royal Mail (or any country’s postal service) has to make a profit, I get that, but it does seem a lot of small businesses, publishers and the like are struggling. And not just with worldwide mailings, but internal mailings, too. Magazines seem to be a dying business here, but what doesn’t help are huge postage costs. Honestly, put comics aside for a moment, I worry for the future of magazines. Very few small stores here stock them; the corner shop by me stopped even newspapers a while back, he now has a Wall’s ice cream freezer in place of where the newspapers and magazines used to be. Some corner shops have stopped selling periodicals, altogether. Supermarkets often have a token selection of magazines, but even they seem to be stocking fewer titles - and the titles they do stock are mainstream ones, e.g. railways, gossip magazines and car magazines. Niche publications (e.g. retro sci-fi) won’t really be found there. Which only leaves one game in town here: WHSmith. However, some publishers have claimed that not only do WHSmith take a percentage of sales (which is understandable), but also charge “rental space” on their shelves for top titles (that doesn’t seem fair). That is why some niche publications don’t even end up on the shelves of WHSmith. It’s sad, but I feel unless you’re a car magazine, railway magazine or football (soccer) magazine, you’ve got no chance. It’s also been years since I’ve seen comics - UK or US - in any kind of greengrocers or corner shop. So, subscriptions are probably the only way forward for publishers, especially niche ones, but if the likes of Royal Mail are making postal costs prohibitive, well I wonder if we’ll end up in a world without magazines. Magazines are dying because of technological changes and the cost of print publishing. They just don't attract enough readership or advertising to sustain them, regardless of shipping costs for subscriptions. Most magazines made more money off newsstand sales than subscriptions anyway. These days, with digital platforms, you reach a wider audience with ads on Google and Youtube and other sites than print ads and magazines have a hard time finding advertisers. Meanwhile, shipping costs, regardless of carrier, have skyrocketed because of fuel costs. There is really no way of reducing that, without breakthrough alternative energy sources for transport. That takes you back to digital, rather than print, because you have no transport cost or paper and printing costs. Subscriptions cannot sustain even niche publishers, in the long run. Transitioning to a digital format is their only realistic course.
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 15, 2024 7:26:54 GMT -5
Some sellers still get around this by using Media Mail, esp if the books are older, although the PO can beeyotch about this if they get nosey.
When I was selling, the clerk at our local post office checked every media mail package to make sue there were no periodicals in it, so I couldn't use Media Mail unless I was selling trades, and even that was iffy. The other issue with Media (and this may have changed) it didn't come with tracking or insurance, and once you paid for those it was almost as expensive as priority (whose price included those features) and if something happened to the package en route, you wouldn't know w/o tracking and were out the cost of whatever you were selling plus what you paid for shipping as you would have to refund the seller and eat the loss (and likely get negative feedback because of it all. You also had to pay for the boxes used with media where priority boxes were free, which also added to the cost of media shipping that you couldn't pass on to the customer without risking negative or neutral feedback. So weighing all the risk/reward elements, I usually opted for Priority rather than Media to avoid all the other risk and cost factors even if it was a little more expensive. But a lot of sellers don't consider costs beyond the actual difference in price of shipping and buyers never consider that when requesting media mail to save a few bucks. -M Ground Advantage is my preferred choice.
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