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Post by Trevor on Mar 25, 2017 19:03:32 GMT -5
I was falling way behind in my reading as the ABC line was starting. I bought them all, but still need to go back and actually read them someday. Story of my life it seems, I like way too much.
I hear few good things about his Avatar work, although Jerusalem (the current title he's doing?) sounds promising.
Edit much later to add: I was thinking of his just concluding 12 issue series from Avatar, Providence. It's apparently a Lovecraftian book that might be best understood if you've read his earlier Avatar Lovecrafty titles.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 25, 2017 19:13:09 GMT -5
I hear few good things about his Avatar work, although Jerusalem (the current title he's doing?) sounds promising. Jersusalem is a prose novel though, no?
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 26, 2017 2:42:33 GMT -5
I hear few good things about his Avatar work, although Jerusalem (the current title he's doing?) sounds promising. Jersusalem is a prose novel though, no? It is. It's one of the ten longest novels written in the English language. Published last year.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 26, 2017 11:02:16 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Alan Moore and absolutely adore things like V for Vendetta, Miracleman, From Hell, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and, of course, Watchmen, but there are still some fairly sizable gaps in his oeuvre that I have yet to read. I'm thinking specifically about his notable work for the Big Two, like his runs of Swamp Thing and Captain Britain (I already own and love "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" and The Killing Joke). My question is whether you think that someone who loved the likes of V for Vendetta and From Hell would automatically love Moore's Swamp Thing and Captain Britain? And while we're on the subject, what about his non-Big Two stuff like Top 10, Promethea or Tom Strong? Or his more recent Cthulhu Mythos stories, The Courtyard, Neonomicon and Providence (I've been a big fan of H.P. Lovecraft for decades)? Lost Girls too has always fascinated me, but I'm unsure whether it would appeal to a reader who liked things such as From Hell or Watchmen? Any advice from those who are better read on Moore's works than I would be gratefully received. Thanks! Swamp Thing is excellent, particularly considering when it was published. I did feel that Moore ran out of steam at the end and it was time for Veitch to take over. Top 10 is a very nice short run in the super-powers in the real world genre. Well worth a read. Tom Strong is a fun homage to the pulps. It's not super deep, but it's always a fun read. Tomorrow Stories is a mixed bag. By far the weakest of the ABC books. Promethea is arguably among Moore's most personal and best books. It's his meditation on magic and how he perceives the world to work. Lost Girls is not for the squeamish. It is Moore consciously trying to produce Porn. Not erotica. His interest is in porn. I did not like Neonomicon at all. Probably my least favorite Moore work at this point.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 26, 2017 12:13:30 GMT -5
Confessor, Swamp Thing Tom Strong "For the Man Who Has Everything," a Superman story League of Extraordinary Gentlemen... the first series is the one I most enjoyed.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 26, 2017 13:17:17 GMT -5
Thanks for all the Alan Moore feedback guys. I think I'm definitely gonna give Swamp Thing a go. You all seem unanimous in your praise of it and tingramretro's description of a comic that is "somewhere between a horror story and a gothic romance" sounds very intriguing. I love the old Dark Mansion of Forbidden Love gothic romance comic that DC put out in the early '70s, so I think I might enjoy it. Just looking online, I see that Moore was on the title for a good old while (1983-1987) and as a result picking his run up in trade format requires a half dozen volumes. I think I'll probably just get volume 1 to begin with and see if I like it.
I might also give Captain Britain and Tom Strong a try.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 26, 2017 13:44:51 GMT -5
Thanks for all the Alan Moore feedback guys. I think I'm definitely gonna give Swamp Thing a go. You all seem unanimous in your praise of it and tingramretro's description of a comic that is "somewhere between a horror story and a gothic romance" sounds very intriguing. I love the old Dark Mansion of Forbidden Love gothic romance comic that DC put out in the early '70s, so I think I might enjoy it. Just looking online, I see that Moore was on the title for a good old while (1983-1987) and as a result picking his run up in trade format requires a half dozen volumes. I think I'll probably just get volume 1 to begin with and see if I like it. I might also give Captain Britain and Tom Strong a try. Moore's Captain Britain stuff has been reprinted several times, but probably the chepest (and one of the nicest, in terms of production) version is the Captain Britain: A Crooked World hardback volume from the Marvel Graphic Novel Collection. ebay UK currently has several up.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 26, 2017 20:13:12 GMT -5
I loved the bulk of the ABC stuff. Tomorrow Stories is the most uneven and Promethea wasn't quite my cup of tea. Tom Strong is a great blend of Tarzan, Doc Savage, the Marvel Family, and about a dozen other things. There's plenty of satirical homages to classic stories, like the EC sci-fi/horror tales, westerns, Hoppy The Marvel Bunny, and more. The revival of the Nedor superheroes, as Terra Obscura (first within Tom Strong, then in two spin-off mini-series) was far better than Project Superpowers.
Top Ten is a nice police procedural book; but, it is also filled with some great comedy. There are easter eggs all over the book, including scenes of ultramice fighting atomicats (all homages to superheroes, and characters like Mighty Mouse and Dangermouse), a murder investigation into the death of Baldur, at a bar for gods, and a Plastic Man homage that molests women, while disguised as different objects (including chairs). The graphic novel, The Forty-Niners, covers the back history of Neopolis and the police force, and also includes some touching relationship moments, including a well handled homosexual relationship. The other spin-off, Smax, takes two of the most popular characters and puts them into a fantasy setting, then pokes fun at that. It still manages to get nasty, even after delivering laughs.
I love League of Extraordinary Gentleman, as a book person; but, some installments work better than others. You would do well to check out Jess Nevins' annotations when reading them, as it opens you up to a wealth of new characters to explore.
Captain Britain is right up there with Marvelman/Miracleman, in my book. The stakes are pretty high in it and it handles multi-dimensional stuff well, too. I like it far more than Grant Morrison's Zentih, which I thought started well, with the first two books, then kind of gets self-indulgent when it goes inter-dimensional.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 27, 2017 4:01:31 GMT -5
Moore's Captain Britain stuff has been reprinted several times, but probably the chepest (and one of the nicest, in terms of production) version is the Captain Britain: A Crooked World hardback volume from the Marvel Graphic Novel Collection. ebay UK currently has several up. Thanks for the tip. How much of Moore's run does that hardcover graphic novel collect?
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 27, 2017 4:50:16 GMT -5
Moore's Captain Britain stuff has been reprinted several times, but probably the chepest (and one of the nicest, in terms of production) version is the Captain Britain: A Crooked World hardback volume from the Marvel Graphic Novel Collection. ebay UK currently has several up. Thanks for the tip. How much of Moore's run does that hardcover graphic novel collect? All of it. Well, all except the last two pages of Marvel Super-Heroes #386, which is where Moore rather abruptly took over from Dave Thorpe. Basically, you get the CB strips from MSH #387-388, The Daredevils #1-11 and Mighty World of Marvel (Vol II) #7-13, plus a cover gallery and some rather nice little features on the character and on Alan Moore. I guess they left out those first two pages because on their own they would't make much sense, and they didn't want to reprint any of Thorpe's stuff and have to pay him for it. But you don't really miss much, story wise.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 27, 2017 5:43:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip. How much of Moore's run does that hardcover graphic novel collect? All of it. Well, all except the last two pages of Marvel Super-Heroes #386, which is where Moore rather abruptly took over from Dave Thorpe. Basically, you get the CB strips from MSH #387-388, The Daredevils #1-11 and Mighty World of Marvel (Vol II) #7-13, plus a cover gallery and some rather nice little features on the character and on Alan Moore. I guess they left out those first two pages because on their own they would't make much sense, and they didn't want to reprint any of Thorpe's stuff and have to pay him for it. But you don't really miss much, story wise. Cool. I've just put in a best offer bid for one on eBay. Incidentally, how long do you reckon it'll be 'til you reach the Alan Moore issues in your Captain Britian review thread?
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 27, 2017 5:46:46 GMT -5
All of it. Well, all except the last two pages of Marvel Super-Heroes #386, which is where Moore rather abruptly took over from Dave Thorpe. Basically, you get the CB strips from MSH #387-388, The Daredevils #1-11 and Mighty World of Marvel (Vol II) #7-13, plus a cover gallery and some rather nice little features on the character and on Alan Moore. I guess they left out those first two pages because on their own they would't make much sense, and they didn't want to reprint any of Thorpe's stuff and have to pay him for it. But you don't really miss much, story wise. Cool. I've just put in a best offer bid for one on eBay. Incidentally, how long do you reckon it'll be 'til you reach the Alan Moore issues in your Captain Britian review thread? Heh. At the rate I'm going, quite awhile. The weekly ran for 39 issues, then there was a roughly six month run in Super Spider-Man and the lengthy Black Knight/Captain Britain series before the MSH run, which actually began with ten issues by Thorpe, before Moore took over.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 27, 2017 5:50:35 GMT -5
Cool. I've just put in a best offer bid for one on eBay. Incidentally, how long do you reckon it'll be 'til you reach the Alan Moore issues in your Captain Britian review thread? Heh. At the rate I'm going, quite awhile. The weekly ran for 39 issues, then there was a roughly six month run in Super Spider-Man and the lengthy Black Knight/Captain Britain series before the MSH run, which actually began with ten issues by Thorpe, before Moore took over. Well, no rush...I didn't mean to hurry you. I'm really enjoying your review thread, despite having never read any of those issues.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 27, 2017 6:25:05 GMT -5
Heh. At the rate I'm going, quite awhile. The weekly ran for 39 issues, then there was a roughly six month run in Super Spider-Man and the lengthy Black Knight/Captain Britain series before the MSH run, which actually began with ten issues by Thorpe, before Moore took over. Well, no rush...I didn't mean to hurry you. I'm really enjoying your review thread, despite having never read any of those issues. Thanks. I don't have very much time to dedicate to it right now, but it's fun going through that early stuff again. I reread the later stuff about once a year, but the early issues less often, so there's quite a bit I've forgotten.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 31, 2017 19:01:18 GMT -5
Is Marvel still publishing Masterworks or have they been replaced by the Epic line ?
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