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Post by tingramretro on Aug 10, 2015 12:06:00 GMT -5
I have a Captain Britain collection that I think is just the Alan Moore stuff so I'll probably have a look for the others, though an initial search at mycomics turned up only one result, a 1988 book credited to Alan Davis and Jamie Delano. Yeah, you have the 2002 tpb, which has been reprinted a few times. It's not a bad package altogether, but it loses something by not including the first few Davis chapters that were written by Dave Thorpe, who set the stage for Alan Moore and the "Jasper's Warp" storyline. I guess those chapters aren't essential, but without them, you're kinda dropped into the middle of a storyline with no explanation. It always niggled me that they left those chapters out. It seemed pointless. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 10, 2015 16:20:36 GMT -5
Yeah, you have the 2002 tpb, which has been reprinted a few times. It's not a bad package altogether, but it loses something by not including the first few Davis chapters that were written by Dave Thorpe, who set the stage for Alan Moore and the "Jasper's Warp" storyline. I guess those chapters aren't essential, but without them, you're kinda dropped into the middle of a storyline with no explanation. It always niggled me that they left those chapters out. It seemed pointless. Yeah, especially when they already colored them for the X-Men Archives limited series. |
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 11, 2015 1:00:09 GMT -5
If it didn't seem so out of character for him, I'd wonder if it wasn't at the request of Alan Moore that only his stuff was included in the trade. Or maybe Marvel felt that buyers would be put off by the inclusion of the Dave Thorpe stuff. He's not exactly a big name in the industry...
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Post by berkley on Aug 11, 2015 1:56:29 GMT -5
I can't complain too much that they restricted that particular collection to the Alan Moore stories, since there have been cases where I've wished they'd done something analogous - the Omega the Unknown collection should have contained just the Gerber+Skrenes issues, for example - but I do recall feeling a lack of context when I read that Captain Britain book back when it came out so I'll probably start looking for those X-Men Archives back-issues.
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 11, 2015 10:57:12 GMT -5
If it didn't seem so out of character for him, I'd wonder if it wasn't at the request of Alan Moore that only his stuff was included in the trade. Or maybe Marvel felt that buyers would be put off by the inclusion of the Dave Thorpe stuff. He's not exactly a big name in the industry... Actually, I think it was one of his problems with the book. He was very unhappy when the book was first published because Marvel had made certain assurances that they did not live up to. I can't remember the specifics, but I think one of his problems was that the Thorpe stuff had not been included. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 11, 2015 11:01:52 GMT -5
I can't complain too much that they restricted that particular collection to the Alan Moore stories, since there have been cases where I've wished they'd done something analogous - the Omega the Unknown collection should have contained just the Gerber+Skrenes issues, for example - but I do recall feeling a lack of context when I read that Captain Britain book back when it came out so I'll probably start looking for those X-Men Archives back-issues. I'd say that the Thorpe issues were more "of a piece" with the Moore issues as Alan Davis provided the art for the entire storyline. There's no jarring shift like in those additional Omega the Unknown/Defenders issues, which I agree are terrible. Thorpe's stuff is actually really good, but Moore's stuff is better. (I'd actually argue that Jamie Delano's run was the best of the Marvel UK Captain Britain material because that's where Alan Davis really hits his stride as an artist. Plus, Gatecrasher's Technet is better than Wardog's Special Executive because Gatecrasher's group is a lot funnier.) |
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 11, 2015 11:41:24 GMT -5
If it didn't seem so out of character for him, I'd wonder if it wasn't at the request of Alan Moore that only his stuff was included in the trade. Or maybe Marvel felt that buyers would be put off by the inclusion of the Dave Thorpe stuff. He's not exactly a big name in the industry... Actually, I think it was one of his problems with the book. He was very unhappy when the book was first published because Marvel had made certain assurances that they did not live up to. I can't remember the specifics, but I think one of his problems was that the Thorpe stuff had not been included. That sounds more plausible. |
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 11, 2015 11:49:50 GMT -5
I can't complain too much that they restricted that particular collection to the Alan Moore stories, since there have been cases where I've wished they'd done something analogous - the Omega the Unknown collection should have contained just the Gerber+Skrenes issues, for example - but I do recall feeling a lack of context when I read that Captain Britain book back when it came out so I'll probably start looking for those X-Men Archives back-issues. I'd say that the Thorpe issues were more "of a piece" with the Moore issues as Alan Davis provided the art for the entire storyline. There's no jarring shift like in those additional Omega the Unknown/Defenders issues, which I agree are terrible. Thorpe's stuff is actually really good, but Moore's stuff is better. (I'd actually argue that Jamie Delano's run was the best of the Marvel UK Captain Britain material because that's where Alan Davis really hits his stride as an artist. Plus, Gatecrasher's Technet is better than Wardog's Special Executive because Gatecrasher's group is a lot funnier.) Oh, now that I can't agree with! I love the Special Executive, have done since they first appeared in Doctor Who Monthly. Wardog alone is worth all of the Technet put together in my opinion. |
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Post by terence1965 on Aug 23, 2015 1:15:05 GMT -5
I was bought the first issue of Mighty World of Marvel back in 1972, and that started my love affair with comics. I irregularly read MWOM, Spider-Man Comics, and The Avengers until I discovered those pesky American colour comics a year later, and never looked back.
I was there when Alan Moore and Alan Davis re-introduced Captain Britain, and maintain that The Daredevils was the finest Marvel UK title ever. You couldn't go wrong with the two Alan's on Captain Britain, Frank Miller Daredevil reprints, and a column written by Moore.
I also have an admiration for The Complete Fantastic Four. Conway and Thomas Fantastic Four reprints up-front, and Lee and Kirby reprints from the begining. Heaven.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 7, 2015 2:19:39 GMT -5
I was bought the first issue of Mighty World of Marvel back in 1972, and that started my love affair with comics. I irregularly read MWOM, Spider-Man Comics, and The Avengers until I discovered those pesky American colour comics a year later, and never looked back. I was there when Alan Moore and Alan Davis re-introduced Captain Britain, and maintain that The Daredevils was the finest Marvel UK title ever. You couldn't go wrong with the two Alan's on Captain Britain, Frank Miller Daredevil reprints, and a column written by Moore. I also have an admiration for The Complete Fantastic Four. Conway and Thomas Fantastic Four reprints up-front, and Lee and Kirby reprints from the begining. Heaven. I'd agree about The Daredevils being the greatest Marvel UK title. Although it's notable, I think, that by about the fifth issue, roughly 90% of the book, including two of the three regular strips, the Night Raven prose story and most of the articles, were by Alan Moore. They could have just renamed it Alan Moore Monthly if not for the Miller Daredevil reprints... |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Sept 7, 2015 4:50:47 GMT -5
I have full runs of Captain Britain and Knigts of Pendragon, about 60 issues of Doctor Who Magazine, some issues of Daredevils and Mighty World of Marvel containing Alam Moore Cap Brit stuff, and probably some odd issues of other stuff.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 7, 2015 4:53:04 GMT -5
I have full runs of Captain Britain and Knigts of Pendragon, about 60 issues of Doctor Who Magazine, some issues of Daredevils and Mighty World of Marvel containing Alam Moore Cap Brit stuff, and probably some odd issues of other stuff. The first series of Knights of Pendragon was great, but the second (early 90s) series was pretty terrible for the most part, I think. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Sept 7, 2015 5:58:13 GMT -5
The first one is from 1990 and the second one from 1992. And it looks indeed horendeous, so I skipped that one. IT also seems to be way more superhero focused than the first series... First series was much more focused on british lore and occult. It almost felt like a 2000AD story.  If you liked that first series, I strongly recommend you check out the writer's Lords Of Misrule, amazing and creepy serie of stories from Atomeka and Dark Horse if memory serves right... |
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 7, 2015 6:29:04 GMT -5
The first one is from 1990 and the second one from 1992. And it looks indeed horendeous, so I skipped that one. IT also seems to be way more superhero focused than the first series... First series was much more focused on british lore and occult. It almost felt like a 2000AD story. If you liked that first series, I strongly recommend you check out the writer's Lords Of Misrule, amazing and creepy serie of stories from Atomeka and Dark Horse if memory serves right... The original KoP would indeed have fitted right into 2000 AD-or, given the time of publication, more likely its more politically themed sister title, Crisis. I never got around to Lords of Misrule, but you're the second person to recommend it to me, so maybe I'll make the effort to track it down... |
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 7, 2015 6:34:56 GMT -5
The first appearance of one of my favourite Marvel UK characters: Warthog...er, I mean Wardog, courtesy of Alan Moore and David Lloyd.  |
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