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Post by Randle-El on Jul 9, 2014 10:15:18 GMT -5
Prior to my last move, I was much more into paper, but since I moved countries, and to an apartment, digital has been much easier, though I still buy paper comics. For me, at this point, I'm buying paper if it's oversized or a nice edition, more than anything, because I don't like the idea of contributing to what is a serious worldwide deforestation issue. Most of the books I get are digital, anymore, as well. I do keep the brightness relatively low on my kindle, because if you have it up high that does grate on the eyes. (I do wish Amazon would format their digital comics better, but like DC with print versions, they know we'll buy anyway.) Since Amazon has acquired Comixology, I would not be surprised to see them adopt Guided View for their own comic reader -- or update the Comixology app to view Amazon-purchased comics in Guided View. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 9, 2014 11:58:21 GMT -5
How serious is the print industry about synthetic paper stocks? I'm guessing that the only reason they haven't switched is cost and the politics of shutting down a massive industry that's been pumping along for the last two hundred years or so...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 10:23:49 GMT -5
Just saw this bit this morning as part of the Comics AM report on CBR. For those wondering how well digital sale sof comics are doing...
SO it looks to be rising at a pretty solid rate. Still not selling enough to seriously replace print (the only estimate we got in 2011 ans 2012 is that digital sales were about 10% of what print sales were), but it seems like it is slowlt finding a spot on the landscape of comic sales.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 11:01:18 GMT -5
The other problem with digital is that it can all get wiped out -- easily. In the early days of the iTunes store, I dutifully purchased all my songs, albums, and even television show episodes. Then my computer was fried by a virus. The iTunes store lost track of the bulk of my purchases, and I could not get those files back for free. It's a lot harder to wipe out someone's physical comic book collection. If you register with Marvel.com and use your profile to purchase their digital comics, you'll never lose them |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 11:05:23 GMT -5
I'm prior military, so when I moved overseas I had no choice but to go digital. I hate reading comics in a computer but on the iPad I love it. I love the lack of (more) clutter in the house and how I can bring an entire library with me in one tablet. Makes for easy screen captures also. I haven't had any eye strain issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 12:25:49 GMT -5
Just saw this bit this morning as part of the Comics AM report on CBR. For those wondering how well digital sale sof comics are doing... SO it looks to be rising at a pretty solid rate. Still not selling enough to seriously replace print (the only estimate we got in 2011 ans 2012 is that digital sales were about 10% of what print sales were), but it seems like it is slowlt finding a spot on the landscape of comic sales. -M I don't think digital will replace print any time soon. It's a new option, just like the trade market. Eventually I think digital will have a serious chunk of the market, 30% or more, but it could be decades before it's the decisive bulk of the industry. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 11, 2014 18:45:59 GMT -5
The other problem with digital is that it can all get wiped out -- easily. In the early days of the iTunes store, I dutifully purchased all my songs, albums, and even television show episodes. Then my computer was fried by a virus. The iTunes store lost track of the bulk of my purchases, and I could not get those files back for free. It's a lot harder to wipe out someone's physical comic book collection. If you register with Marvel.com and use your profile to purchase their digital comics, you'll never lose them I don't mean to pick on you, but this is a BIG pet peeve of mine. Why can't you lose them? Marvel could pull an Enron and go out of business. They could decide to completely wipe their servers and start again. A new management team could take over at Disney and sell Marvel off, and the new owner could do something different, or nothing digitally. A right-wing group could take over and start censoring stuff. Or a left wing group. If you don't have it in your hand, bad things can happen. They probably won't, but they could. Didn't one of comixology's competitors go out of business and leave a bunch of people in the lurch not that long ago? |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 11, 2014 18:49:53 GMT -5
Just saw this bit this morning as part of the Comics AM report on CBR. For those wondering how well digital sale sof comics are doing... SO it looks to be rising at a pretty solid rate. Still not selling enough to seriously replace print (the only estimate we got in 2011 ans 2012 is that digital sales were about 10% of what print sales were), but it seems like it is slowlt finding a spot on the landscape of comic sales. -M I don't think digital will replace print any time soon. It's a new option, just like the trade market. Eventually I think digital will have a serious chunk of the market, 30% or more, but it could be decades before it's the decisive bulk of the industry. According to Comichron, print comics went up 9% from 2012 to 2013, (in the direct market), so that's about a wash as far as the % of digital (which is around 18%, btw)... that counts ONLY direct market. They don't have a 2013 estimate for all sales yet, but I'd guess (based on last year's) it would be in the neighborhood of 800 million (last years was 700-730).. maybe more if I'm underestimating the Walking Dead in book stores dactor. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 19:44:03 GMT -5
If you register with Marvel.com and use your profile to purchase their digital comics, you'll never lose them I don't mean to pick on you, but this is a BIG pet peeve of mine. Why can't you lose them? Marvel could pull an Enron and go out of business. They could decide to completely wipe their servers and start again. A new management team could take over at Disney and sell Marvel off, and the new owner could do something different, or nothing digitally. A right-wing group could take over and start censoring stuff. Or a left wing group. If you don't have it in your hand, bad things can happen. They probably won't, but they could. Didn't one of comixology's competitors go out of business and leave a bunch of people in the lurch not that long ago? Your house could burn down, or flood, or get robbed. A box could get lost while moving. A parent can toss out your old stuff. I bet more people have lost physical collections than digital ones. Sure, it's a concern. I don't think it's more of a concern than the loss of physical copies though. I lost every magazine sized and digest sized comic I owned at some point between the age of 12 and 28. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 20:11:23 GMT -5
I don't mean to pick on you, but this is a BIG pet peeve of mine. Why can't you lose them? Marvel could pull an Enron and go out of business. They could decide to completely wipe their servers and start again. A new management team could take over at Disney and sell Marvel off, and the new owner could do something different, or nothing digitally. A right-wing group could take over and start censoring stuff. Or a left wing group. If you don't have it in your hand, bad things can happen. They probably won't, but they could. Didn't one of comixology's competitors go out of business and leave a bunch of people in the lurch not that long ago? Your house could burn down, or flood, or get robbed. A box could get lost while moving. A parent can toss out your old stuff. I bet more people have lost physical collections than digital ones. Sure, it's a concern. I don't think it's more of a concern than the loss of physical copies though. I lost every magazine sized and digest sized comic I owned at some point between the age of 12 and 28. I was going to say, the odds of physical copies getting stolen, lost, or destroyed in an accident are so much higher than Marvel going out of business or them wiping their servers. At any rate, 90% of the comics I own, physical or digital, I'm likely to never read again. I'll be fine if my $4 doesn't guarantee I own something for the remainder of my life. |
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 11, 2014 22:24:26 GMT -5
Comixology, esp being owned by Amazon, isn't going away, and I feel safe with my purchases there.
OTOH, I wouldn't feel safe with another competitor, not at that level, like say iVerse. Not picking on them, I just don't feel safe utilizing their services.
It's just too big a phenomenon / paradigm shift to just blip away. Not happening, and worst case scenario, there'd be a class action so fast...
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 12, 2014 7:54:17 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. With your physical comics, you can control them...digital are at the mercy of Marvel/comixology/whatever.
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Post by travishedgecoke on Jul 12, 2014 8:03:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. With your physical comics, you can control them...digital are at the mercy of Marvel/comixology/whatever. With Amazon, for example, you can download and store the files as you like. And, they've been very good to me, I must say, in terms of purchase confusion, returns, or similar issues. I've never had them forget I owned something. I don't see how you're more in control of your physical possessions, though. Flood, fire, vindictive exes can do your comics in and there may not be much you can do to stop it if it happens. I've definitely lost more comics to floods or people physically destroying them, than I've had companies delete my purchases. When the Marvel subscription service turned out not to work for me, where I'm living, I emailed them and they refunded me, quite kindly. When I had to abandon bank boxes of comics to flood waters, and collect'em and dry'em out later, there wasn't anybody I could email and ask to recompense. |
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Post by comicscube on Jul 12, 2014 8:52:10 GMT -5
Really, the only reason I haven't switched to digital is because I legitimately have a hard time reading them. (I'm 32 but have the technological adaptability of an octogenarian.)I've moved more times than I care to count in the past 10 years, and the one move overseas was enough to make me resent the physical copies just a bit, enough to annoy my little shriveled soul. If the printed version didn't matter so much to me in terms of how I apparently receive the material (there have been occasions when I read something digitally, thought little of it, then ran into the printed copy months later and turned completely around), I'd have switched to digital a long time ago. Not to mention, this is the Philippines - flooding, rain, whatever, is a real problem here. I pretty much have to be unsurprised, if I lend a comic out, to get it back with some of the pages curling up from moisture, for example. That's just the way the infrastructure and the weather work and I'm too lazy to care about condition.
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Post by comicscube on Jul 12, 2014 8:57:42 GMT -5
(I also just weighed in right now because one of my comics went missing and I have no earthly idea where it is.)
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