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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 11, 2015 19:26:19 GMT -5
They seem to really think about how form relates to content, and that's something I'd hate to lose. With good reason, when creators play with shapes and sizes in such a way, you need three dimensions, to fully appreciate their work. Still, that's less than 1% of the comics published. For the most part, a 3:2 12" display, or a 16:10 13.3" one, will give you a perfect replica of a single comic page. That is true. I'll toss some of the upper end mainstream books into the "better in physical copies" pile too, though. Like in Watchmen there's a lot of design thought put into where certain things end up on the page, and that's far more effective in a medium where you can flip through the pages instead of just having one open at a time. I can see me eventually switching to digital for mainstream stuff. It does seem more efficient in terms of cost and storage. |
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 12, 2015 3:21:27 GMT -5
I like the physical aspect of reading my collection. The newer stuff I just skim through on my iPad. But handling of an older comic also gives you a sense of " being there" when the comic was released. Just one point of disagreement. I also like the physical aspect of my collection, but when it comes to reading, most often than not, I go to the digital version, it's just more comfortable. I consider myself a reader, more than a collector, even if I started as a collector, but there's still some part of me that enjoys those traits of a collector. The one you mention is obviously one, and quite important. Nostalgia is better evoked trough the senses, and digital comics only capture sight. I think that because of that duality (reader-collector), the older generation will never completely give up collecting. The new generation will be another matter. |
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 12, 2015 3:27:08 GMT -5
I'll toss some of the upper end mainstream books into the "better in physical copies" pile too, though. Like in Watchmen there's a lot of design thought put into where certain things end up on the page, and that's far more effective in a medium where you can flip through the pages instead of just having one open at a time. As mentioned, double pages are the real Achilles' heel of digital comics. You either have to scroll on a portable device, or go with a big desktop screen, that can fit two pages at once. Scrolling isn't what you want to do with a really good comic, it deserves better. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 12, 2015 6:27:04 GMT -5
I like the physical aspect of reading my collection. The newer stuff I just skim through on my iPad. But handling of an older comic also gives you a sense of " being there" when the comic was released. Just one point of disagreement. I also like the physical aspect of my collection, but when it comes to reading, most often than not, I go to the digital version, it's just more comfortable. Oh yeah, for sure. It's like having a hundred long boxes in your hand held device. But turning the page to see an awesome splash or reveal is an experience that you don't get in the digital form. |
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 12, 2015 7:15:49 GMT -5
turning the page to see an awesome splash or reveal is an experience that you don't get in the digital form. From a purely reading standpoint, I do, YMMV. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Oct 12, 2015 8:06:07 GMT -5
95% of the comics I buy hopefully have re-read potential.
Having actual comics on my surrounding shelves is a visual interface of the vast reading possibilities surrounding me : I see a comic sticking out of a pile for some reason, and I might get curious, comics will invade my routines.
With digital, I will always have to make a conscious effort of seeking them, which is quite sad to me.
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Post by Trevor on Oct 12, 2015 9:36:07 GMT -5
For me, the main reasons I'm going digital are space and price. I have about 15,000 physical comics and really can't fit many more. In the past five years I've bought another 15,000 digital comics. If physical, I would have spent about $60,000 to get them. Couldn't come close to affording that and wouldn't even if I could. But with digital freebies, bundles, and $.99 sales, I spent maybe $5,000. Oh yeah, for sure. It's like having a hundred long boxes in your hand held device. But turning the page to see an awesome splash or reveal is an experience that you don't get in the digital form. How do you not? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 12, 2015 10:31:11 GMT -5
  I'm talking about events like this. I haven't seen anything to come close to this jarring turn of a page in digital form. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 12, 2015 14:33:16 GMT -5
For me, the main reasons I'm going digital are space and price. I have about 15,000 physical comics and really can't fit many more. In the past five years I've bought another 15,000 digital comics. If physical, I would have spent about $60,000 to get them. Couldn't come close to affording that and wouldn't even if I could. But with digital freebies, bundles, and $.99 sales, I spent maybe $5,000. For me ,Space is the only advantage to digital. |
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Post by Trevor on Oct 12, 2015 16:55:24 GMT -5
^^ Yep, double spread pages are one of the problems of digital. But those are pretty rare, let alone jarring ones like you posted. And I don't have that specific issue in Comixology, but they might work it where at least you get the single image of the spread when you click from the previous page, guided view or not. Half the size it should be, but still a pretty solid reveal.
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Post by Trevor on Oct 12, 2015 16:57:27 GMT -5
Oh, and thanks for spoiling Savage Dragon for me!   |
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 12, 2015 18:29:03 GMT -5
^^ Yep, double spread pages are one of the problems of digital. But those are pretty rare, let alone jarring ones like you posted. And I don't have that specific issue in Comixology, but they might work it where at least you get the single image of the spread when you click from the previous page, guided view or not. Half the size it should be, but still a pretty solid reveal. If things like guided view can get in the way of how you experience reading, you should consider a device that allows you to avoid it altogether. With full pages being displayed at once, you read a digital comic, exactly the same way that you would a "normal" one. Double pages just force you to scroll or use big displays, that's all. |
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Post by Trevor on Oct 12, 2015 20:14:23 GMT -5
I can't imagine using anything less than a full size iPad to view comics. Screen roughly equals a comic page. I'll probably be upgrading to the iPad Pro mostly for comics. Double page spreads should be readable without zooming.
I usually don't use guided view, although I admit they did a nice job with it.
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Post by Randle-El on Oct 12, 2015 21:33:23 GMT -5
I use Comixology, but I tend to skip using Guided View and opt to read pages displayed in full on my iPad. The screen is just large enough that I can actually read the text without discomfort. With double page spreads, I either switch to landscape or Guided View, so sometimes that can get annoying of an issue has a lot of them. Visually, something slightly bigger than an iPad would probably be perfect, but then the tablet starts to get unwieldy to handle, and I quite like the weight and size of my iPad (Air, first gen). Since digital is not my primary reading platform for comics, it's a worthwhile tradeoff for me.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 13, 2015 11:32:15 GMT -5
The last market report posted over on CBR (I think it was ICTV, but I don't exactly remember), said that they think the digit market has stopped growing... which I was very surprised to hear, since internet anecdotal evidence it to the contrary. It's really too bad Comixology doesn't release numbers  |
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