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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 23, 2015 16:31:24 GMT -5
I think it must have hurt like hell. Why do you hate fun? Exaggeration and distortion has a long tradition in cartoons and comic books. It's very unfair to consider an artist who lives that tradition on a level with a talentless hack like Liefeld. I love fun. Most of the examples you're showing here are comedic exaggerations, which are fun. I just don't see that in that picture.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 16:35:02 GMT -5
Seriously, who tried to pull his head off and how did Spidey survive? I think it's a fun exaggeration of how he is turning his head in shock and surprise. On how MUCH weight Doc Ock has put on?
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Post by the4thpip on Oct 23, 2015 16:37:42 GMT -5
I fail to see how anyone can not see the cartoonish basis of Ramos' art. It's always been there - he literally drew a light bulb over Bart's head when Impulse had an idea - and he decided to go there even more so nowadays.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Oct 23, 2015 17:12:49 GMT -5
Ramos is fine with me. A good fit for Spiderman. While McFarlane may not be a favorite to many he always exaggerated Spidey, and is one of my top favorite visually when it comes to Spidey. And I've always like this Wonder Woman pinup of Ramos' from Wonder Woman Gallery #1 (1996)
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 23, 2015 18:10:40 GMT -5
Ramos is fine with me. A good fit for Spiderman. While McFarlane may not be a favorite to many he always exaggerated Spidey, and is one of my top favorite visually when it comes to Spidey. And I've always like this Wonder Woman pinup of Ramos' from Wonder Woman Gallery #1 (1996) I can think of 2 good reasons why that WW pin-up wasn't disappointing.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 23, 2015 18:22:34 GMT -5
Ramos is fine with me. A good fit for Spiderman. While McFarlane may not be a favorite to many he always exaggerated Spidey, and is one of my top favorite visually when it comes to Spidey. And I've always like this Wonder Woman pinup of Ramos' from Wonder Woman Gallery #1 (1996) She looks like Ryuko Matoi from Kill La Kill.
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Post by Crimebuster on Oct 23, 2015 18:26:00 GMT -5
I fail to see how anyone can not see the cartoonish basis of Ramos' art. I see it. I also see how completely butt ugly his art is.
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Post by foxley on Oct 23, 2015 18:53:27 GMT -5
This monstrosity is by Dietrich Smith. Even by 1997 Marvel standards, it's pretty bad.
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 23, 2015 19:44:20 GMT -5
I never would've guessed this as Evans, but he's not a good fit for this kind of cover. Or we can blame Vinnie. That's because the penciller isn't George Evans. According to the GCD, it's Jack Sparling. Cei-U! I summon the misattribution! That's what I get for merely glancing. I feel better, though, because for my money, Sparling is to pencils what Vinnie is to inks.
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 23, 2015 19:46:46 GMT -5
I fail to see how anyone can not see the cartoonish basis of Ramos' art. I see it. I also see how completely butt ugly his art is. Ditto. There's nothing wrong with "cartoonish" super-hero art but Ramos' work is cartoonish in an aesthetically unpleasant way (in my opinion, natch). Those Spidey covers are an abomination. Cei-U! I summon the grotesqueries!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 21:37:59 GMT -5
I fail to see how anyone can not see the cartoonish basis of Ramos' art. I see it. I also see how completely butt ugly his art is. Thank you
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 23, 2015 23:01:17 GMT -5
NOT THE WORLD'S GREATEST COMIC MAGAZINE!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 23:11:25 GMT -5
NOT THE WORLD'S GREATEST COMIC MAGAZINE! Maybe once upon a time but definitely not during most of the 90's
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 23, 2015 23:59:59 GMT -5
NOT THE WORLD'S GREATEST COMIC MAGAZINE! Maybe once upon a time but definitely not during most of the 90's I'm currently reading The Essential Fantastic Four, Volume Three. That's FF #41 to #63. Stan Lee. Jack Kirby. Joe Sinnott. (Vince Colletta inks on FF #41 to #43. Give him credit for doing a pretty good job here.) The Frightful Four. The Inhumans. Galactus. The Silver Surfer. The Watcher. Wyatt Wingfoot. The Black Panther. Klaw. Prester John. Blaastar. Doctor Doom steals the Power Cosmic from the Silver Surfer! It truly was THE WORLD'S GREATEST COMIC MAGAZINE! for a while there.
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Post by Action Ace on Oct 24, 2015 0:01:15 GMT -5
NOT THE WORLD'S GREATEST COMIC MAGAZINE! Maybe once upon a time but definitely not during most of the 90's I'm trying to think of ONE Fantastic Four comic from the 1990s I liked and I'm drawing a blank.
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