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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 12, 2015 17:38:11 GMT -5
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 12, 2015 17:38:03 GMT -5
Gambit makes my stomach turn. Phony accent, super long trench coat that no one could maneuver in when its fight time. Stupid headband. I did like the idea of Gambit when he was first introduced, though: whether it was conscious or not, Chris made him a generation conflict made flesh. Older people will know what I'm talking about when I mention an annoying younger generation with ridiculous tastes in clothes, grotesque hairstyles, dubious morals, a bad attitude... and a sickeningly better-looking face and body, and the ability to do incredible things without apparently trying. No specifics, here: it happens to every generation. In Gambit's case, the Cajun was the next generation and Wolverine was the old one. But then the concept was simply forgotten and he was turned into just another action hero; the point his very existence made was forgotten. I believe the same thing happened to Fantomex, who's now just another guy with powers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 17:41:35 GMT -5
OH, OH, OH! I wanted to add those 90's half-head gear things they used to wear. The half-head scarves, you know what I am talking about. All the X-Men wore them in the 90s, same with X-Factor, Kid Flash wore one back in the day of silver age (does he still?), and quite a few other heroes because it was the thing in the 90s. I HATE THOSE THINGS.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 17:43:53 GMT -5
The thing on his head. . I could never figure out why they wore these things:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 19:10:00 GMT -5
As much as I adore Superman I thought he was a complete moron in Superman 75 - Death of Superman.
Why did he waste so much time on the same ineffective punches? Does our boy NOT LEARN in a brawl?
All those super powers and he doesn't know how to fight dirty like a Super-kick to Doomsday's balls.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 12, 2015 20:53:55 GMT -5
The only time I liked the Hal Jordan GL was in the Neal Adams run but even then, he was sort of a dummy.
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Post by JKCarrier on Nov 12, 2015 21:09:06 GMT -5
The only time I liked the Hal Jordan GL was in the Neal Adams run but even then, he was sort of a dummy. I think that run pretty much ruined Hal Jordan as a character by making him the establishment straw man for liberal Ollie Queen to knock down. That famous panel of him bowing his head in shame after the old guy harangues him for not helping black people defined Hal's character for a generation. Every writer since then seems to either continue that idea of him as wimpy and insecure, or they over-compensate in the other direction by making him a swaggering macho jerk.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 21:23:59 GMT -5
Superheroes that just never did it for me, try though I might, that have not been mentioned: Namor Hulk Iron Man Supergirl Wonder Woman Firestorm B'wana Beast (JUST KIDDING!) Ohmygod. You just have not read enough of Stan Lee's Namor from Tales to Astonish. He is HILARIOUS. Like sooo many Stan wrote, he was soooo dramatic. Stan's Silver Surfer was the Morrissey of Silver/Bronze age comics. His Namor was a BLAST.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 21:25:53 GMT -5
I was not done: Roy Thomas' Namor was stunning. And Wtf Wonder Woman, really? I am not sure we have much of anything else to talk about. Man. This hurts.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 12, 2015 21:31:13 GMT -5
The only time I liked the Hal Jordan GL was in the Neal Adams run but even then, he was sort of a dummy. I think that run pretty much ruined Hal Jordan as a character by making him the establishment straw man for liberal Ollie Queen to knock down. That famous panel of him bowing his head in shame after the old guy harangues him for not helping black people defined Hal's character for a generation. Every writer since then seems to either continue that idea of him as wimpy and insecure, or they over-compensate in the other direction by making him a swaggering macho jerk. I hate that scene sooooo damn much!! The guy has saved the planet multiple times. Pretty sure that means he saved all the black, white, yellow, red and fuscia people. Such a stupid stupid scene.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 12, 2015 21:32:01 GMT -5
I was not done: Roy Thomas' Namor was stunning. And Wtf Wonder Woman, really? I am not sure we have much of anything else to talk about. Man. This hurts. There's always some other character to talk about. I always felt Firestorm was too powerful to be beaten and yet his main enemy was the Black Bison? Lame.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 21:35:50 GMT -5
But without Firestorm, we would NOT have Crystal Frost aka Killer Frost. He needed to exist for that reason alone.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 12, 2015 21:42:21 GMT -5
But without Firestorm, we would NOT have Crystal Frost aka Killer Frost. He needed to exist for that reason alone. Ha. You reminded me of COIE where she falls in love with Firestorm and wants to keep kissing him. He said it was like kissing an iceberg.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 21:45:45 GMT -5
I cannot get into the Hulk. I loved the tv show as a child, but I cannot get into his comics.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 12, 2015 21:48:09 GMT -5
And Firestorm also wore a puffy shirt.
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