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Post by berkley on Apr 29, 2024 22:06:42 GMT -5
None of Lee's redesigns worked and what is with all of the segmenting? If it is supposed to signify armor, why would Superman need armor? Never thought much of Lee's design sense, when it came to costumes. The entire problem for me is the style. The no outside trunks idea is fine with me, whether it's a one-piece or trousers plus top, or whatever. The artist could have drawn them in their traditional costumes and I'd probably still hate it, I just find that style ugly, ugly, ugly; and the same goes for most superhero artists of that era, whenever it was exactly (1990s-2000s? not really sure).
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 29, 2024 22:54:45 GMT -5
None of Lee's redesigns worked and what is with all of the segmenting? If it is supposed to signify armor, why would Superman need armor? Never thought much of Lee's design sense, when it came to costumes. The entire problem for me is the style. The no outside trunks idea is fine with me, whether it's a one-piece or trousers plus top, or whatever. The artist could have drawn them in their traditional costumes and I'd probably still hate it, I just find that style ugly, ugly, ugly; and the same goes for most superhero artists of that era, whenever it was exactly (1990s-2000s? not really sure). 20Teens
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 30, 2024 8:29:37 GMT -5
I think the biggest problem a lot of people had regarding nu-52 was how directionless it felt and how uncommitted it was to being a total reboot
That being said, I did enjoy Redhood and The Outlaws quite a bit
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Post by impulse on Apr 30, 2024 8:35:18 GMT -5
I like Jim Lee in general. I just think those designs were uninspired and poorly thought out, like most aspects of the New 52. I don't know how true this is, but I got the sense Lee was rushing/distracted with his managerial duties.
Seems phoned in.
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Post by Rags on May 1, 2024 22:13:07 GMT -5
You wouldn't find this in the 70s series....
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Post by codystarbuck on May 2, 2024 11:07:11 GMT -5
You wouldn't find this in the 70s series....
That's 'cause Doc was out swinging, in the 70s. I mean, the guy lived in Greenwich Village; you know he was partying. Probably needed the magic to deal with all of the STDs. I picture a mash up of Saturday Night Fever and Cruising.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 2, 2024 12:58:52 GMT -5
Paging Roy Thomas...
Linda Carter must be related to Sharon and Peggy, right?
Maybe even the granddaughter of the original Linda Carter, Student Nurse?
And might Marvel's version of a certain Warlord of Mars also be her ancestor?
This is the Marvel Microverse, after all.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 2, 2024 13:04:45 GMT -5
Paging Roy Thomas... Linda Carter must be related to Sharon and Peggy, right? Maybe even the granddaughter of the original Linda Carter, Student Nurse? And might Marvel's version of a certain Warlord of Mars also be her ancestor? This is the Marvel Microverse, after all. Philip Jose Farmer would fit all together.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 2, 2024 13:17:05 GMT -5
Paging Roy Thomas... Linda Carter must be related to Sharon and Peggy, right? Maybe even the granddaughter of the original Linda Carter, Student Nurse? And might Marvel's version of a certain Warlord of Mars also be her ancestor? This is the Marvel Microverse, after all. Philip Jose Farmer would fit all together. And tie them to detective Nick Carter, President Jimmy Carter and the cast of Carter Country.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 2, 2024 13:29:27 GMT -5
Carter Country??! Oh man, is that a blast from the past!
Cei-U! I summon the Ghost of Sitcoms Past!
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Post by tarkintino on May 2, 2024 14:44:38 GMT -5
Paging Roy Thomas... Linda Carter must be related to Sharon and Peggy, right? Maybe even the granddaughter of the original Linda Carter, Student Nurse? And might Marvel's version of a certain Warlord of Mars also be her ancestor? This is the Marvel Microverse, after all. You need to write for the MCU; that franchise is always trying to tie improbably linked characters and/or ideas together.
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Post by tonebone on May 2, 2024 15:08:29 GMT -5
I like Jim Lee in general. I just think those designs were uninspired and poorly thought out, like most aspects of the New 52. I don't know how true this is, but I got the sense Lee was rushing/distracted with his managerial duties. Seems phoned in. I remember an interview with a DC writer (Gail Simone, I think) who was complaining about the Nu52 for exactly that reason... it was rushed and poorly thought out. She said she had only a week or 2 to write each of the first issues of whatever series she was on. The art was likewise rushed after writing. It was a matter of just cranking out 52 different titles with no time to really create any kind of cohesive editorial visions. So, "rushed" became the editorial vision.
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Post by tonebone on May 2, 2024 15:09:22 GMT -5
Carter Country??! Oh man, is that a blast from the past! Cei-U! I summon the Ghost of Sitcoms Past! "Handle it, Roy. Handle it! Handle it!"
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Post by tonebone on May 2, 2024 15:11:06 GMT -5
Philip Jose Farmer would fit all together. And tie them to detective Nick Carter, President Jimmy Carter and the cast of Carter Country. And to the Backstreet Boy Nick Carter. Don't judge me for knowing that... I once worked on a set of Backstreet Boys video games for Stan Lee Media.
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Post by Batflunkie on May 2, 2024 19:48:35 GMT -5
I like Jim Lee in general. I just think those designs were uninspired and poorly thought out, like most aspects of the New 52. I don't know how true this is, but I got the sense Lee was rushing/distracted with his managerial duties. Seems phoned in. I remember an interview with a DC writer (Gail Simone, I think) who was complaining about the Nu52 for exactly that reason... it was rushed and poorly thought out. She said she had only a week or 2 to write each of the first issues of whatever series she was on. The art was likewise rushed after writing. It was a matter of just cranking out 52 different titles with no time to really create any kind of cohesive editorial visions. So, "rushed" became the editorial vision. There was also the fact that the Batman and Green Lantern titles were for the most part largely uncommitted to the reboot. I think a lot of companies when building a new comic book universe could really take a page out of the Malibu Ultraverse's book or even Valiant. If you're going to do something that big that you're promoting the absolute hell out of, you need to stick the landing and make people care about your product. But sadly they have Warner Bros money, so they can do what they like and not care about it in the long run
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