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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 9, 2018 21:17:29 GMT -5
Whoever had the idea of renaming Rachel Summers “Prestige” should be told that it was a bad one. There! I said it. Just add her to a team with Baxter, Mando, Newsstand. Call them X-Format!
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Post by rberman on Jun 9, 2018 22:29:10 GMT -5
Whoever had the idea of renaming Rachel Summers “Prestige” should be told that it was a bad one. There! I said it. Just add her to a team with Baxter, Mando, Newsstand. Call them X-Format! They could meet here:
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jun 10, 2018 4:19:12 GMT -5
Just add her to a team with Baxter, Mando, Newsstand. Call them X-Format! Ah, yes X-format; once they fought monopolistic old media villains like Baron Broadsheet and his vile sidekick, Tabloid. Now they must face formidable new media adversaries like Clickbait, Listicle and Troll. Edited to add: the latter three later joined the fiendish Fake News Phantom in his diabolical Forum of Alternative Facts.
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 10, 2018 5:10:40 GMT -5
Speaking of blank covers for sketches, don't they do both front and back covers as such in those copies? When I saw Simonson awhile back, I think one guy in line had such an issue for he had gotten a Thor head sketch on the front cover and was allowed back in line to get a Beta Ray Bill head sketch on the back cover. (I don't recall what issue specifically it was and Simonson okayed their letting this guy back in line for the additional free sketch). I'm always impressed these artists will sit and draw sketch after sketch, in front of loads of people, as fast as they can. I know someone like Walt Simonson is a veteran with decades of experience, and could draw great pictures with his eyes closed, but I wonder if he still worries about messing up occasionally. Imagine doing a bad picture on someone's beloved rare collector's item.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 10, 2018 5:28:58 GMT -5
I think most artists play it safe and do drawings that the've done hundreds of times.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 10, 2018 6:09:28 GMT -5
Speaking of blank covers for sketches, don't they do both front and back covers as such in those copies? When I saw Simonson awhile back, I think one guy in line had such an issue for he had gotten a Thor head sketch on the front cover and was allowed back in line to get a Beta Ray Bill head sketch on the back cover. (I don't recall what issue specifically it was and Simonson okayed their letting this guy back in line for the additional free sketch). I'm always impressed these artists will sit and draw sketch after sketch, in front of loads of people, as fast as they can. I know someone like Walt Simonson is a veteran with decades of experience, and could draw great pictures with his eyes closed, but I wonder if he still worries about messing up occasionally. Imagine doing a bad picture on someone's beloved rare collector's item. I think it's more a status thing anyway "This incoherent mess that looks like a 5 legged horse vomiting up a zebra was drawn by Walt Simonson!"
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Post by tarkintino on Jun 10, 2018 11:12:41 GMT -5
Speaking of blank covers for sketches, don't they do both front and back covers as such in those copies? When I saw Simonson awhile back, I think one guy in line had such an issue for he had gotten a Thor head sketch on the front cover and was allowed back in line to get a Beta Ray Bill head sketch on the back cover. (I don't recall what issue specifically it was and Simonson okayed their letting this guy back in line for the additional free sketch). I'm always impressed these artists will sit and draw sketch after sketch, in front of loads of people, as fast as they can. I know someone like Walt Simonson is a veteran with decades of experience, and could draw great pictures with his eyes closed, but I wonder if he still worries about messing up occasionally. Imagine doing a bad picture on someone's beloved rare collector's item. Why would he worry at all? Its a sketch, and by any measure, a sketch is not going look like a cover, finished interior or pin-up; its raw creativity on the fly from the artist, and that's more valuable (to me, anyway) than the comic that artist worked on--with all of its rough look.
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 11, 2018 14:04:04 GMT -5
I'm always impressed these artists will sit and draw sketch after sketch, in front of loads of people, as fast as they can. I know someone like Walt Simonson is a veteran with decades of experience, and could draw great pictures with his eyes closed, but I wonder if he still worries about messing up occasionally. Imagine doing a bad picture on someone's beloved rare collector's item. Why would he worry at all? Its a sketch, and by any measure, a sketch is not going look like a cover, finished interior or pin-up; its raw creativity on the fly from the artist, and that's more valuable (to me, anyway) than the comic that artist worked on--with all of its rough look. <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="6.980000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 22.660000000000082px; height: 6.980000000000018px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_64166804" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="6.980000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 6.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1074px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75436478" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="6.980000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 6.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 286px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_59880286" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="6.980000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 6.98px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1074px; top: 286px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_73171521" scrolling="no"></iframe> When you're rushed, you can make mistakes. You don't want someone who has queued up for two hours to meet you to go home with a bad scribbled picture from an artist they thought was so great.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 11, 2018 17:16:47 GMT -5
Eh, I've never got a sketch I'd consider bad. And 98% of the sketches I've got on books came from indy artists - mostly amateurs, a lot of them just starting out. (I go to cons to discover new stuff, not to chat with people I'm already a fan of. Joe Kubert is dead, so I don't need to engage with artists I like less.)
I don't think bad sketches happen that often - If you're drawing your own characters for the 5,000th time it's muscle memory.
And if they do I don't think an overwhelming majority of fans would care. It's still a little piece of original art that reminds you of the time you interacted with an artist.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 23:01:20 GMT -5
Why would he worry at all? Its a sketch, and by any measure, a sketch is not going look like a cover, finished interior or pin-up; its raw creativity on the fly from the artist, and that's more valuable (to me, anyway) than the comic that artist worked on--with all of its rough look. When you're rushed, you can make mistakes. You don't want someone who has queued up for two hours to meet you to go home with a bad scribbled picture from an artist they thought was so great. You get what you pay for. If someone is going to complain about the quality of a free sketch, then they are basically an ungrateful asshat who should just be ignored (there I said it!). Most artists charge for con sketches, and if you are paying for it, there can be some expectation of quality, but if an artist is spending all day sketching for free, well just say thank you and be grateful for what you got. -M
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 12, 2018 6:09:22 GMT -5
When doing sketches in books, I have a few “inventory” ideas that I can do with my eyes closed and never mess up. Those I’ll do in ink. When I have time to try something new and more difficult, I usually work with a pencil... because as has been said above, I don’t want to mess up a customer’s book.
One of my friends does a very, very light blue pencil rough first (just placing volumes, basically) and then goes to ink. That works really well for him.
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Post by MDG on Jun 12, 2018 9:52:49 GMT -5
I only had one sketch that I felt ripped off on--it cost $20, but this was late-80s or early 90s. It was disappointing, 'cause I really liked the artist. Later on, I realized that he was, generally, a pretty loose penciller (and this was pencils only) so I let it go. Especially considering the bargains/rarities I got on sketches in the real early days. Last year my son got me a hardcover version of this book with a blank sketch cover. Great artists in it, but they're all dead, so I don't know what I'd go with if I had it done (both artist and subject).
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Post by The Captain on Jun 12, 2018 11:14:58 GMT -5
I don't normally go for sketches at shows. In fact, I've only ever gotten three done, all from the same person, that being Andy Price, the artist for My Little Pony. He did a sketch for each of my daughters of their favorite pony, then he did one of this tiny rabbit character from the show for me; it looks like the sweetest little thing, but it's always angry, so he drew it yelling and cursing.
If I'm going to spend money on artwork at a show, I usually go with original prints from less-well-known artists. It's typically superhero stuff, and I frame them and hang them in my comic book room or in the basement if it is more movie or TV related.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 12, 2018 15:56:12 GMT -5
Whoever had the idea of renaming Rachel Summers “Prestige” should be told that it was a bad one. There! I said it. It's like having a character called Majestic!
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 13, 2018 15:37:29 GMT -5
When you're rushed, you can make mistakes. You don't want someone who has queued up for two hours to meet you to go home with a bad scribbled picture from an artist they thought was so great. You get what you pay for. If someone is going to complain about the quality of a free sketch, then they are basically an ungrateful asshat who should just be ignored (there I said it!). Most artists charge for con sketches, and if you are paying for it, there can be some expectation of quality, but if an artist is spending all day sketching for free, well just say thank you and be grateful for what you got. -M No-one said anything about complaining....all I said was, I wonder if the artists worry about messing up occasionally when drawing con sketches. And as Roquefort Raider has said, yes they do. So chill out.
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