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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 29, 2018 20:40:01 GMT -5
When Wolfman finally brought him into the NTT storylines , he made him a DEA agent which fit in well with his former addiction. But there's also the idea that you don't really want to have the book become a cast of thousands. They had their " X-men" formula of old popular Characters and new characters together in the book.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 29, 2018 23:32:35 GMT -5
The idea that Superman's 'S' emblem originated on Krypton is just silly. I understand that Marlon Brando wanted to wear the emblem in the film as Jor-El, but I have no idea why the notion was incorporated into the comics beyond a need to have a deeper explanation for every little detail there is about our favorite heroes. Sometimes an 'S' just stands for 'Superman'.
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Post by Duragizer on Jul 30, 2018 1:50:25 GMT -5
The idea that Superman's 'S' emblem originated on Krypton is just silly. I understand that Marlon Brando wanted to wear the emblem in the film as Jor-El, but I have no idea why the notion was incorporated into the comics beyond a need to have a deeper explanation for every little detail there is about our favorite heroes. Sometimes an 'S' just stands for 'Superman'. While I personally like the "'S' is from Krypton" idea, I don't like how every modern TV series/movie/etc. automatically defaults to it. Variety is the spice of life.
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Post by Duragizer on Jul 30, 2018 4:11:51 GMT -5
The DC & Marvel Universes are broken, unwieldy messes. It's time to retire them both. No more ongoing titles; no more Earths 1 & 616; just various & sundry miniseries' set in their own continuities.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 30, 2018 4:48:26 GMT -5
Comic book buyers are big fans of the crossover. Without connected universes that is taken away.
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Post by rberman on Jul 30, 2018 6:01:26 GMT -5
Comic book buyers are big fans of the crossover. Without connected universes that is taken away. I wish more TV series were set in the same universe. It's fun in the Marvel Netflix series to just have a character from one show wander through and have a scene on another show. Remember when Jessica Fletcher visited Magnum P.I.? I suppose the Balkanized nature of television franchise intellectual properties makes such things next to impossible, though, since the networks don't actually own the shows that they air.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 30, 2018 12:31:53 GMT -5
The DC & Marvel Universes are broken, unwieldy messes. It's time to retire them both. No more ongoing titles; no more Earths 1 & 616; just various & sundry miniseries' set in their own continuities. I would be a huge fan of a lot of Marvel and DC characters being in anthologies like Batman Legends of the Dark Knight was. Or how Dark Horse handles/handled the Aliens franchise after the first two volumes. As you mentioned lots of mini-series with new artist and writers doing whatever story they want to that sells.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 30, 2018 18:07:54 GMT -5
The idea that Superman's 'S' emblem originated on Krypton is just silly. I understand that Marlon Brando wanted to wear the emblem in the film as Jor-El, but I have no idea why the notion was incorporated into the comics beyond a need to have a deeper explanation for every little detail there is about our favorite heroes. Sometimes an 'S' just stands for 'Superman'. Maybe it's a generational thing -- Superman the Movie was the first Superman thing that I saw that really got me into the character -- but I always thought the "S" being a Kryptonian symbol was a great idea.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 30, 2018 22:36:47 GMT -5
The idea that Superman's 'S' emblem originated on Krypton is just silly. I understand that Marlon Brando wanted to wear the emblem in the film as Jor-El, but I have no idea why the notion was incorporated into the comics beyond a need to have a deeper explanation for every little detail there is about our favorite heroes. Sometimes an 'S' just stands for 'Superman'. Maybe it's a generational thing -- Superman the Movie was the first Superman thing that I saw that really got me into the character -- but I always thought the "S" being a Kryptonian symbol was a great idea. The problems I have with the concept are: 1. The emblem should be one of a kind - something that only Superman could wear and not a crest passed down from his father and before him his father's father and before him his... 2. It adds a level of humility to a character that's been bogged down in humility for far too long (Superman's "Bruce is always right" attitude when it comes to Batman, Lois condescendingly referring to him as Smallville, the whole Boy Scout label, etc). Superman should be King of the Superheroes and that emblem should convey this. Making it Krypton's symbol of hope which just happens to look like a stylized 'S' lessens the boldness of the character. "Oh, that 'S' emblem says you're Superman? How bold!" "Er, no, it says 'Hope', it just looks like an 'S' by a funny coincidence. I'm actually just a humble farm boy from Smallville. Sorry to come across as so brash". 3. I don't like the fantastic coincidence aspect of a Krypton symbol just happening to look like one of the 26 letters of the English alphabet. 4. It's such a silly thing to add to. Superman's emblem doesn't need an embellished back story any more than his spit curl does or the points on his boots. "See this spit curl? It symbolizes the path my rocket took to get to Earth. It's a sign of respect." 5. It's a change that hits at the core of the character. Yeah I know, the Superman we have today bears little in common with what Siegel and Shuster came up with, but by altering something very basic about the character you're affecting his purity. He's Superman and so wears an 'S'. Leave it at that. No funny story behind it explaining that it's more complicated than that, no mix-up caused through a loss in translation from one language to another - 'S' = Superman is pure and direct, it doesn't need an Editor's Note explaining that it's not. There. I said it.
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Post by brutalis on Jul 31, 2018 9:05:28 GMT -5
I love buying a brand new comic at the LCS and then rolling it up and putting it in my back pocket. Just to hear the "investor's" cries of anguish in the store. There. I said it.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 31, 2018 9:06:39 GMT -5
I hope you're kidding. We'll have to stop meeting in family reunions...
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Post by rberman on Jul 31, 2018 9:10:30 GMT -5
Maybe it's a generational thing -- Superman the Movie was the first Superman thing that I saw that really got me into the character -- but I always thought the "S" being a Kryptonian symbol was a great idea. The problems I have with the concept are: 1. The emblem should be one of a kind - something that only Superman could wear and not a crest passed down from his father and before him his father's father and before him his... 2. It adds a level of humility to a character that's been bogged down in humility for far too long (Superman's "Bruce is always right" attitude when it comes to Batman, Lois condescendingly referring to him as Smallville, the whole Boy Scout label, etc). Superman should be King of the Superheroes and that emblem should convey this. Making it Krypton's symbol of hope which just happens to look like a stylized 'S' lessens the boldness of the character. "Oh, that 'S' emblem says you're Superman? How bold!" "Er, no, it says 'Hope', it just looks like an 'S' by a funny coincidence. I'm actually just a humble farm boy from Smallville. Sorry to come across as so brash". 3. I don't like the fantastic coincidence aspect of a Krypton symbol just happening to look like one of the 26 letters of the English alphabet. 4. It's such a silly thing to add to. Superman's emblem doesn't need an embellished back story any more than his spit curl does or the points on his boots. "See this spit curl? It symbolizes the path my rocket took to get to Earth. It's a sign of respect." 5. It's a change that hits at the core of the character. Yeah I know, the Superman we have today bears little in common with what Siegel and Shuster came up with, but by altering something very basic about the character you're affecting his purity. He's Superman and so wears an 'S'. Leave it at that. No funny story behind it explaining that it's more complicated than that, no mix-up caused through a loss in translation from one language to another - 'S' = Superman is pure and direct, it doesn't need an Editor's Note explaining that it's not. There. I said it. We're always on thin ice trying to rationalize why crimefighters would wear costumes at all, let alone brightly colored tights and capes, while performing their duties. But with respect to the "S": In most versions of his origin, Superman is given his name by the community, often the media. Why would he wear a big "S" in response though? Batman doesn't wear a "B." The Flash doesn't wear "F." OK, the X-Men do wear "X," but that's a team thing, and he's not "S-Man." If he did choose an insignia, it would probably represent his power, maybe with the sun or something, like Jor El does. So "It's a family thing" makes as good a sense as any reason for why he wears what looks like a big S. It's a pretty basic shape, so it's not so far fetched that some other culture would use it for something.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 31, 2018 10:52:44 GMT -5
I love buying a brand new comic at the LCS and then rolling it up and putting it in my back pocket. Just to hear the "investor's" cries of anguish in the store. There. I said it. This made me wince and laugh at the same time.
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Post by comicsandwho on Jul 31, 2018 11:37:39 GMT -5
Do you stuff ferrets and Marvel comics down your trousers?
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 31, 2018 13:37:07 GMT -5
Do you stuff ferrets and Marvel comics down your trousers? I can't speak for brutalis, but I don't. Well, not at the same time.
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