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Post by Duragizer on Feb 1, 2023 22:05:31 GMT -5
Plastic Man looks like a New Wave musician. Which is why I'm disappointed in myself for not having read any of his comics.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 1, 2023 22:37:33 GMT -5
Plastic Man looks like a New Wave musician. Which is why I'm disappointed in myself for not having read any of his comics. I remember getting a copy of the first tpb of Kyle Baker's run at my local library in my teens and loving out absurdly off-the-wall it was. I came across a "well loved" copy of DC Special #15 sometime after and didn't really give it much thought or even a read through until recently and felt like a fool for not digging into it sooner (I think most of it had to do with how simple looking the art was and how most Golden Age books looked in general)
Last year, I found a copy of Plastic Man Archives Volume 1 for cheap and fell in love all over again.
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Post by jason on Feb 4, 2023 20:11:56 GMT -5
I cant take serious stuff drawn by Mad Magazine artists like Angelo Torres or Jack Davis seriously. Great artists definitely, but I'm so use to their Mad work that I keep expecting one-liners or funny background gags or slapstick. It would be like if an acclaimed story like Daredevil: Born Again or Crisis on Infinite Earths still had the same story and dialogue, but was drawn by Fred Hembeck (in his typical style).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 21:03:13 GMT -5
I cant take serious stuff drawn by Mad Magazine artists like Angelo Torres or Jack Davis seriously. Great artists definitely, but I'm so use to their Mad work that I keep expecting one-liners or funny background gags or slapstick. It would be like if an acclaimed story like Daredevil: Born Again or Crisis on Infinite Earths still had the same story and dialogue, but was drawn by Fred Hembeck (in his typical style). I have to strongly disagree. In particular Davis' EC horror stuff is a masterclass on how to depict horror visually on the comics page.  Artists can switch styles and vary their approach. This is a movie poster done by Frank Frazetta and used for the album cover of the soundtrack album  and it in no way lessens the impact of the fantasy work he did over the years such as this Conan cover...  I see this type of artistic typecasting and straightjacketing all the time, and it confounds me every time I do. -M |
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Post by jason on Feb 4, 2023 22:19:28 GMT -5
Ok, that Jack Davis art is pretty good. Maybe it's just because I havent seen enough serious art by those guys. I've seen Harvey Kurtzman's work on war comics and those are effective:  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 23:24:00 GMT -5
Here's some Angelo Torres horror stuff from one of the Warren mags (Creepy I believe)  nothing there to indicate it should have one-liners or punch lines as part of that page... -M |
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Post by berkley on Feb 5, 2023 1:14:08 GMT -5
Here's some Angelo Torres horror stuff from one of the Warren mags (Creepy I believe) nothing there to indicate it should have one-liners or punch lines as part of that page... -M
I think I know Torres more from his Warren work than for MAD, though I read enough MAD back in the day that I must have seen him there too. But when I hear his name this horror story artwork is the kind of thing that comes to mind.
I just looked up a few MAD images and now I remember his stuff there too. Impressive that he could pull off such different styles, and so appropriate to the subject matter in each case.
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Post by jason on Feb 5, 2023 1:22:46 GMT -5
Looks like you've changed my mind, that Torres stuff is impressive.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Feb 5, 2023 4:27:29 GMT -5
Looks like you've changed my mind, that Torres stuff is impressive. Yeah, I was going to add - but I was beaten to the punch by others - that Torres in particular is an artist I very much associate more with his non-satirical work. mrp posted samples of his Warren horror work, but back in the 1950s he also did some really nice work in adventure and crime comics (with a style that was very much influenced by Frazetta's comics art): |
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 6, 2023 19:14:13 GMT -5
Going through Amazon to think about what Epic Collections to buy next and it's utterly bizarre to me that Roger Stern's Avengers run isn't better collected
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 7, 2023 8:37:21 GMT -5
All of the major series seem to have that same gap in the epic volumes right now... they have the first 7 or 8 volumes of material (which takes care of the silver age stuff) then they jump to the mid 80s, sometimes as late as the mid 90s and stuff that hasn't been in Masterworks or other big trades. I assume they'll fill in eventually.
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 7, 2023 16:20:42 GMT -5
Here's some Angelo Torres horror stuff from one of the Warren mags (Creepy I believe) nothing there to indicate it should have one-liners or punch lines as part of that page... -M Yes, the Torres work was from Creepy #1 (1964), in a story titled, "Pursuit of the Vampire!" (written by Goodwin). Magnificent approach to horror never reminding one of his humor work. |
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Post by tonebone on Feb 10, 2023 9:19:36 GMT -5
I cant take serious stuff drawn by Mad Magazine artists like Angelo Torres or Jack Davis seriously. Great artists definitely, but I'm so use to their Mad work that I keep expecting one-liners or funny background gags or slapstick. It would be like if an acclaimed story like Daredevil: Born Again or Crisis on Infinite Earths still had the same story and dialogue, but was drawn by Fred Hembeck (in his typical style). I posted about this recently, elsewhere, but I was shocked to find myself reading a Mort Drucker "serious" war comic... I had never seen his non-satire work, and, even though it's still obviously Drucker, his images carry a weight and seriousness I hadn't considered possible before.   |
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Post by MDG on Feb 10, 2023 9:43:01 GMT -5
^^^^^ I think most--though not all--of the comic artists who came up through the 40s and 50s felt they needed to be ready to take jobs in any genre and had both serious and humorous styles that they could all on when needed. After that time, there seemed to be more specialization one way or the other.
Both Severins are proficient in both styles, though Marie seems to have a more distinct humor style. On the other hand, when Wrightson did humor in PLOP!, it only deviated maybe 10% from what he usually did around that time.
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Post by tonebone on Feb 10, 2023 15:42:41 GMT -5
^^^^^ I think most--though not all--of the comic artists who came up through the 40s and 50s felt they needed to be ready to take jobs in any genre and had both serious and humorous styles that they could all on when needed. After that time, there seemed to be more specialization one way or the other. Both Severins are proficient in both styles, though Marie seems to have a more distinct humor style. On the other hand, when Wrightson did humor in PLOP!, it only deviated maybe 10% from what he usually did around that time. Among "modern" artists, I can think of a few who could switch hit like that, also... Michael Golden was great at humor stuff (Bucky O'Hare, Troll Patrol, etc.). Of course, Troll Patrol didn't really deviate from his style that much. Joe Staton could slide pretty easily from dark serious stuff to more lighthearted stuff like E-Man. Gene Colon, Terry Austin, and others worked for Archie. Crazy back in the 80s was always full of "serious" artists doing funny stuff. |
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