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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 6:09:11 GMT -5
I saw that DC is calling Billy Batson's alter ego "The Captain" now after years of changing his name from Captain Marvel to "Shazam" which I thought was terrible.
I know there are problems with using Captain Marvel like they can't use it as a series title, but if they must have an alternative, my vote would be Captain Thunder. Like Marvelman becoming Miracleman, at least it flows similarly to the original, plus a neat little Bronze Age reference.
EDIT: Looks like there was some reference to the name Captain Thunder again in Flashpoint, I never read it but looks like a different thing involving a composite of several folks becoming the one hero. I'm again more just thinking traditional CM.
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Post by Batflunkie on May 4, 2023 8:54:15 GMT -5
I saw that DC is calling Billy Batson's alter ego "The Captain" now after years of changing his name from Captain Marvel to "Shazam" which I thought was terrible. I know there are problems with using Captain Marvel like they can't use it as a series title, but if they must have an alternative, my vote would be Captain Thunder. Like Marvelman becoming Miracleman, at least it flows similarly to the original, plus a neat little Bronze Age reference. EDIT: Looks like there was some reference to the name Captain Thunder again in Flashpoint, I never read it but looks like a different thing involving a composite of several folks becoming the one hero. I'm again more just thinking traditional CM. What struck me as odd was how, now that Marvel owns Miracleman, why they didn't try and change it back to Marvelman. And I understand why, because of how popular the book was
It's kind of like with Howard The Duck, now that Disney owns the character through Marvel after raising such a fit back in the day to make sure he didn't look too much like Donald
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 11:22:08 GMT -5
Love it when a 2nd print cover is different from the 1st print. This one starts of the awesome Hush story line....it's also a nugget in the back-issue market.
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Post by berkley on May 4, 2023 12:15:11 GMT -5
I saw that DC is calling Billy Batson's alter ego "The Captain" now after years of changing his name from Captain Marvel to "Shazam" which I thought was terrible.
It's like that song, how does it go?
They said "Captain",
I said "What?" They said "Captain",
I said "What?" They said "Captain",
I said "What?" etc
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Post by Prince Hal on May 4, 2023 12:24:32 GMT -5
I saw that DC is calling Billy Batson's alter ego "The Captain" now after years of changing his name from Captain Marvel to "Shazam" which I thought was terrible. I know there are problems with using Captain Marvel like they can't use it as a series title, but if they must have an alternative, my vote would be Captain Thunder. Like Marvelman becoming Miracleman, at least it flows similarly to the original, plus a neat little Bronze Age reference. EDIT: Looks like there was some reference to the name Captain Thunder again in Flashpoint, I never read it but looks like a different thing involving a composite of several folks becoming the one hero. I'm again more just thinking traditional CM. Is The Captain suing? |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 14:57:42 GMT -5
Seriously....I have to get more Bob Oskner books....too bad he didn't do Betty and Veronica comics of the day, these 2 babysitters would be perfect.
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Post by MDG on May 4, 2023 15:57:26 GMT -5
Seriously....I have to get more Bob Oskner books....too bad he didn't do Betty and Veronica comics of the day, these 2 babysitters would be perfect.
Windy and Willy are reprints of Dobie Gillis stories, with hair and clothes updated--I have a page stat that Oksner worked on for one story. The covers use gags from the earlier series, but totally redrawn. |
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Post by Confessor on May 4, 2023 17:06:42 GMT -5
Seriously....I have to get more Bob Oskner books....too bad he didn't do Betty and Veronica comics of the day, these 2 babysitters would be perfect.
You wanna get yourself some vintage '60s Angel and the Ape, it's such a fun series and the Oskner artwork is fantastic (it's often inked by Wally Wood). It's sadly only a brief run, just Showcase Presents #77 and Angle and the Ape #1-7 (the last issue was re-titled Meet Angel). A short but sweet series. |
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Post by berkley on May 4, 2023 18:16:10 GMT -5
In hindsight, I'd say Oskner should have been given a shot at Wonder Woman at some point, since drawing pretty girls seems to have been one of his specialties. But maybe he was too much associated with humour books in the minds of DC editors. What was his longest run or runs on a series?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 18:47:16 GMT -5
In hindsight, I'd say Oskner should have been given a shot at Wonder Woman at some point, since drawing pretty girls seems to have been one of his specialties. But maybe he was too much associated with humour books in the minds of DC editors. What was his longest run or runs on a series? I absolutely loved his covers on the short-lived 70's Supergirl series (unfortunately the stories were not very good). I very much would have liked to have seen him take on a well-written Supergirl or similarly Wonder Woman (covers and interior work). |
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Post by tarkintino on May 4, 2023 18:57:32 GMT -5
Have any artists actually specifically named Barr or Chan as influences on the way they draw the Hulk? Noticeable change does not require anyone naming artists, if you can simply see pages and/or cover galleries of a certain period and see visible evolutionary changes to a character or look. Before the period in question, there had been a "standard" Hulk appearance, sans any nod toward a more realistic look:
Next, you see night and day changes to reflect a bodybuilder-esque (again, through the filter of superhero exaggerations) in 1977:
The point is that one can point to the period above, rather the artists as definitive, as they were the beginning of a more consistent view / era of illustrating the Hulk in that aforementioned bodybuilder-esque form, which--despite personal artistic leanings of artists to come--would follow that approach to the character:
Its all subjective, but I think artists such as Chan, Barr, et al.--along with the influence of the Universal TV series made a distinctive mark on the look of the Hulk in ways never achieved (or had as lasting an artistic influence) as any who illustrated the Hulk before their time. Granted, in the late 80s and 90s, some would bring back early Hulk's Frankenstein-ish flat-top (by way of Jack Pierce's legendary make-up creation), but the examples above show the named artists were not one-offs where visual influence was concerned.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 4, 2023 19:08:14 GMT -5
In hindsight, I'd say Oskner should have been given a shot at Wonder Woman at some point, since drawing pretty girls seems to have been one of his specialties. But maybe he was too much associated with humour books in the minds of DC editors. What was his longest run or runs on a series? Oksner did many, many issues of DC’s humor/entertainment books in the 50s: Dobie Gillis; Sgt. Bilko; Miss Beverly Hills; Miss Melody Lane; Leave it to Binky; Doberman; and of course, long runs of many years on Jerry Lewis and Bob Hope. Plus scores of other titles and short runs. Put it this way: he started at DC in 1940 and drew (and wrote) for DC till the late 80s. |
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Post by Icctrombone on May 4, 2023 19:27:00 GMT -5
In hindsight, I'd say Oskner should have been given a shot at Wonder Woman at some point, since drawing pretty girls seems to have been one of his specialties. But maybe he was too much associated with humour books in the minds of DC editors. What was his longest run or runs on a series? Oksner did many, many issues of DC’s humor/entertainment books in the 50s: Dobie Gillis; Sgt. Bilko; Miss Beverly Hills; Miss Melody Lane; Leave it to Binky; Doberman; and of course, long runs of many years on Jerry Lewis and Bob Hope. Plus scores of other titles and short runs. Put it this way: he started at DC in 1940 and drew (and wrote) for DC till the late 80s. I'm a big fan of Oksners work. I saw that he inked some Superman books in the Bronze Age , too. |
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Post by Rob Allen on May 4, 2023 19:35:21 GMT -5
I first encountered Oksner during the period when he was inking Curt Swan on Superman. Discovering his pencil work was a revelation.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 4, 2023 21:34:30 GMT -5
I saw that DC is calling Billy Batson's alter ego "The Captain" now after years of changing his name from Captain Marvel to "Shazam" which I thought was terrible.
It's like that song, how does it go?
They said "Captain",
I said "What?" They said "Captain",
I said "What?" They said "Captain",
I said "What?" etc
I said whatchewwant? He (TAFNACM) would look silly in the beret and sunglasses, with the suit and cape, though. |
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