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Post by chaykinstevens on Oct 31, 2024 18:01:27 GMT -5
The editor of the Alan Moore comic came up with the idea, as an alternative number of the beast, because he hated superhero comics. I think the idea came from Dave Thorpe, who wrote Captain Britain before Alan Moore, not from an editor. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 31, 2024 18:09:48 GMT -5
I find Bendis insufferable. Not him. I don't know anything about him. I mean his writing. It's ridiculously wordy and self-aggrandizing and obnoxious and, basically, much better suited to actual books. A lot of his stuff is interesting for a change of pace. The trouble is that it gets tiresome to keep reading talking heads issue after issue. 6 issues to tell a 3 issue story is also a problem. |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 31, 2024 18:11:34 GMT -5
I find Bendis insufferable. Not him. I don't know anything about him. I mean his writing. It's ridiculously wordy and self-aggrandizing and obnoxious and, basically, much better suited to actual books. A lot of his stuff is interesting for a change of pace. The trouble is that it gets tiresome to keep reading talking heads issue after issue. 6 issues to tell a 3 1 issue story is also a problem. Fixed it for you. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 31, 2024 18:18:48 GMT -5
I miss you man. You have to stop traveling the world like James Bond and attend a zoom meeting.
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Post by rich on Oct 31, 2024 19:43:36 GMT -5
The editor of the Alan Moore comic came up with the idea, as an alternative number of the beast, because he hated superhero comics. I think the idea came from Dave Thorpe, who wrote Captain Britain before Alan Moore, not from an editor. Apparently he was editor on Daredevils, which Moore wrote. It was his idea, but it first saw print in that comic. |
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Post by Confessor on Oct 31, 2024 21:43:30 GMT -5
I thought the origin of the 616 designation was pretty well known among Marvel nerds. It first appears in a Captain Britain story that ran in Daredevils.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Nov 1, 2024 5:18:59 GMT -5
Bendis when he's good is really good. Bendis when he's bad is really bad. He can be kind of like Frank Millar that way. Partially thanks to Marvel editorial's determination to destroy Peter Parker and everything that once made 616 Spider-Man good, his Ultimate Spider-Man run is by far the best Spider-Man book or run of this century. I also consider his X-Men run to be the best mainline X-Men run of the 21st century, though that's not saying that much and there have been spin-off books that have been much better, like Zeb Wells' 2 runs on New Mutants and Hellions. That's interesting... I've only heard other people criticise his X-Men as tedious and boring, but I've not searched out any internet reviews. Miller was pretty much excellent consistently until he wasn't... 80's/90's awesome, 2000 onwards 😵 shockingly bad. I don't recall any stinkers pre-2000, though that's not saying there weren't. Has he produced anything vaguely readable in the last quarter century? P.S. 616.... is that the main Marvel universe in the comics? What's the number all about? The 3rd part of the 'Dark Knight Returns,' called 'The Master Race,' was much better than 'Strikes Again.' However, Millar didn't write it alone and had Brian Azzarello as a co-writer, which probably helped a lot in making it readable. Bendis' X-Men has a great start but hits a wall when the first big crossover event 'Battle of the Atom' happens and never recovers, though there are still a few great individual issues spinkled in there. He's a much better character writer than the vast majority of modern X-Men writers, so where he may turn a good 2-3 issue story into an average or bad 6 issue story, other writers just have stories that would be bad no matter how many or how few issues they are told in, and they are bad all the way through instead of starting good and falling off midway through. |
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Post by rich on Nov 1, 2024 6:17:23 GMT -5
The 3rd part of the 'Dark Knight Returns,' called 'The Master Race,' was much better than 'Strikes Again.' However, Millar didn't write it alone and had Brian Azzarello as a co-writer, which probably helped a lot in making it readable. "Much better" than Strikes Again is pretty much the weakest compliment in history. 😅 Has Miller managed anything good in the last 25 years? Without a co-writer? |
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Post by rich on Nov 1, 2024 6:19:06 GMT -5
A quick 'there I said it'- I'd avoid anything Mark Millar is associated with. Is there anyone here that liked his post-1999 work?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 1, 2024 6:28:18 GMT -5
A quick 'there I said it'- I'd avoid anything Mark Millar is associated with. Is there anyone here that liked his post-1999 work? I really enjoyed Ultimates and Ultimates II, despite going in ready to hate the concept. I've never been a fan of his other stuff, though, even the early works. Can't please everyone all the time, I guess. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 1, 2024 6:54:57 GMT -5
I enjoyed the first Civil War with Millar also.
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Post by kirby101 on Nov 1, 2024 7:15:43 GMT -5
I miss you man. You have to stop traveling the world like James Bond and attend a zoom meeting. Will try Sunday. |
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Post by kirby101 on Nov 1, 2024 7:19:52 GMT -5
A quick 'there I said it'- I'd avoid anything Mark Millar is associated with. Is there anyone here that liked his post-1999 work? I like ALL his current work, I am reading all his Dark horse series now, He finds some really good artists to team up with and the series are from enjoyable to very good.
His big crossover "Big Game" seemed impossible to pull off, but he manages to.
Nothing after 1999? Kick-Ass and Hit Girl started in 2008.
Maybe you are just familiar with his big two work?
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Post by commond on Nov 1, 2024 8:55:28 GMT -5
i was really digging James Sturm and Guy Davis' Unstable Molecules up until the final issue. No idea why it became so nasty.
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Post by Rags on Nov 1, 2024 10:39:32 GMT -5
A quick 'there I said it'- I'd avoid anything Mark Millar is associated with. Is there anyone here that liked his post-1999 work?
Yeah, Ultimate X-Men, he was involved in the first 30+ issues.
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