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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 3, 2015 12:58:27 GMT -5
And I'd completely forgotten about the backup with Dreamy and the Keith Giffen art. Not bad. Not bad at all. This might be why Dreamy is one of my favorites. The Dream Girl/Star Boy pairing always struck me as a bit odd when I first started reading about them. Star Boy always seemed like too much of a straight laced, by the books, average Joe to be with someone like Dream Girl. I think the TMK issue that spotlighted Star Boy gave a really great exploration into his character and how his relationship with her would logically progress. Dream Girl must have weird taste in guys. In the Waid run (shudder) she was on the verge of something with Brainy (an even odder pairing) before she died. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 3, 2015 12:59:42 GMT -5
All this talk of the Legion has inspired me to dig out #285 to #300 to read over the next few weeks. I dig out an issue or a storyline here or there pretty regularly but I don't even remember the last time I went through and read the run as a whole. I just finished #285 and it's pretty cool. Art by Pat Broderick and Bruce Patterson! Shadow Lass, Mon-El, Shrinking Violet, Star Boy, Colossal Boy! Cameos by Brainiac 5, Timber Wolf and Light Lass, Karate Kid and Princess Projectra. And I'd completely forgotten about the backup with Dreamy and the Keith Giffen art. Not bad. Not bad at all. This might be why Dreamy is one of my favorites. I read all of my Legions just a few years ago (well, maybe it's been 5 years by now, time flies!) and this thread has got me wanting to do it again! |
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 3, 2015 13:37:06 GMT -5
I read up to #289 last night, the one where Colossal Boy, Shrinking Violet, Saturn Girl, Timber Wolf and Chameleon Boy are about to freeze to death on an asteroid because of Cham's inexplicable stupidness.
I am surprised that I remember everybody's name! Gim Allon, Salu Digby, Imra Ardeen and Reep Daggle. For some reason, I can never remember Timber Wolf's name. Even when I was reading LSH monthly, I could never remember his name.
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Post by Farrar on Dec 3, 2015 14:29:15 GMT -5
The Legion was ok, but I always felt like with Superman Jr (Superboy) in there, with the whole Legion, they were practically unbeatable. I love the linkage with Superboy & Supergirl, but more as guest stars. Once Superboy left in # 259, Legion got more enjoyable for me... You're not alone in your feelings about Superboy and Supergirl. By the mid-1960s, it was apparent (based on letters and other feedback) that the Legion had a solid fanbase and could pull its own weight and didn't need the marquee value of a Superboy (or Supergirl). In fact in 1966 one of the LSH writers, E. Nelson Bridwell, with the blessing and cooperation of editor Mort Weisinger, wrote a story to remove the Super cousins from the Legion. The idea was that in the 30th century (2966 AD) an immense cloud of Kyrptonite dust had drifted into the Earth's orbit, so the cousins couldn't travel into the future to participate in Legion adventures/meetings without endangering themselves. The story was quite elaborate--scientific data revealed the cloud would orbit the earth for 2 years before drifting away; the Legion tried every means possible to dispel the cloud but could not; the Supes' memories of the Legion were wiped (by Shrinking Violet, who entered their bloodstreams a la Fantastic Voyage); and before they returned to the 20th century, the cousins selected their own replacements. This story appeared in Adventure #350. Well, when the DC executives/publishers heard about what was planned they went ballistic. No way could you remove Superboy (and Supergirl) from the feature! The LSH had to feature someone with that big S emblem and red cape at all times! So according to Bridwell (in the Legion Outpost book and elsewhere), the second part of the story (appearing in #351) was rewritten and a quite ridiculous "solution" to the cloud problem was tacked on so that Superboy and Supergirl could return to the 30th century.  |
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Post by Farrar on Dec 3, 2015 14:30:34 GMT -5
I read up to #289 last night, the one where Colossal Boy, Shrinking Violet, Saturn Girl, Timber Wolf and Chameleon Boy are about to freeze to death on an asteroid because of Cham's inexplicable stupidness. I am surprised that I remember everybody's name! Gim Allon, Salu Digby, Imra Ardeen and Reep Daggle. For some reason, I can never remember Timber Wolf's name. Even when I was reading LSH monthly, I could never remember his name.  Brin Londo!!!! He is one of my faves, along with the Ranzz twins. God, I love those Legion names. All of 'em. |
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Post by Farrar on Dec 3, 2015 14:35:46 GMT -5
Dream Girl must have weird taste in guys. In the Waid run (shudder) she was on the verge of something with Brainy (an even odder pairing) before she died. I hated that too!!  LOL, I am resolutely old school --I recognize very few Legion pairings that weren't established in the Silver Age. |
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Post by Action Ace on Dec 3, 2015 15:18:39 GMT -5
I could see why the DC executives didn't want him to leave. In the mid 1960s, Superboy was the best selling comic in the industry other than Superman. Weisinger probably wanted him out for the same reason he didn't want Superman in JLA, overexposure. You can put me down as someone who strongly prefers having Superboy in the Legion. When he left in #259, I dropped the book.  I didn't come back until issue #280. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 15:57:30 GMT -5
I read the Wildfire issue and the one right before that, and oh man! The LoSH are definitely addictive. Some zany freak situation that explained how Ultra Boy didn't really die, and how he and Superboy got mixed up with memories and minds. SO CRAZY. Such a soap opera, too! And I am so drawn to it. So stuck on it. I'm IN! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 15:57:49 GMT -5
The Outcast of Super Heroes (story) in that Adventures Comics was one of the saddest comics when I was a kid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 16:03:20 GMT -5
The Outcast of Super Heroes (story) in that Adventures Comics was one of the saddest comics when I was a kid. I have not read that story yet, but now I need to. But look how happy those bag of jerks are in the background. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 16:17:40 GMT -5
The Outcast of Super Heroes (story) in that Adventures Comics was one of the saddest comics when I was a kid. I have not read that story yet, but now I need to. But look how happy those bag of jerks are in the background. You can send me a PM if you like to see how you feel about this book. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 16:27:31 GMT -5
I have not read that story yet, but now I need to. But look how happy those bag of jerks are in the background. You can send me a PM if you like to see how you feel about this book. I don't have access to this book right now, unless it is in collection somewhere? So, I probably won't be able to read it for a while.  |
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Post by MDG on Dec 3, 2015 17:04:57 GMT -5
I could see why the DC executives didn't want him to leave. In the mid 1960s, Superboy was the best selling comic in the industry other than Superman. Weisinger probably wanted him out for the same reason he didn't want Superman in JLA, overexposure. You can put me down as someone who strongly prefers having Superboy in the Legion. When he left in #259, I dropped the book. I didn't come back until issue #280. I'm sure DC didn't want to put out Adventure without someone in a blue "S" suit--whether Superman, Superboy, or Supergirl--on the cover, since, for most readers, a well-known character was probably a bigger draw than the Legion. Especially in the mid-60s when the success of the Batman TV show led to an explosion of (largely unfamiliar) superhero books. |
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 3, 2015 17:26:16 GMT -5
The Legion was ok, but I always felt like with Superman Jr (Superboy) in there, with the whole Legion, they were practically unbeatable. I love the linkage with Superboy & Supergirl, but more as guest stars. Even then, they still had Mon-el, Andromeda, Ultra Boy... Also, you must hate the Justice League (often featuring Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, at least 1 Green Lantern, at least 1 Flash, Captain Marvel, Power Girl, Zatanna, Captain Atom, Firestorm...) and Justice Society (often featuring Superman, Wonder Woman, Spectre, Doctor Fate, Green Lantern, T-bolt, Power Girl...). No, I don't hate any of them. I love em all, and yes, even without Superboy or Supergirl the Legion is ridiculously powerful. Not saying that in a bad way; just sayin'. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 4, 2015 11:09:43 GMT -5
I read the Wildfire issue and the one right before that, and oh man! The LoSH are definitely addictive. Some zany freak situation that explained how Ultra Boy didn't really die, and how he and Superboy got mixed up with memories and minds. SO CRAZY. Such a soap opera, too! And I am so drawn to it. So stuck on it. I'm IN! I read LSH #289 and the first LSH Annual last night, and it's fun reading these comics as a run. It's been a very long time since I read LSH Annual #1 because I used to skip it when I read LSH #285 to #330. It's OK. Re-reading these issues reminds me why I haven't looked at the earlier part of the run for a very long time. It's good, and I used to read it pretty regularly, but I wore it out. I also think The Great Darkness Saga is over-rated. I loved it when it was new, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it when I read it again, but it's right after the Saga that LSH gets great for me. Every six months or so, I'll pull out two or three issues in the #295 to #320 (or so) era and read those. So, coldwater, if you decide to go past #290, it's just going to get better and better! And I wanted to remind you to get Legion of Super-Heroes Annual #1 if you keep going. It takes place between #289 and #290 (or thereabouts) so you'll want to include it when you get that far. (And I have to keep reminding myself not to give anything away because you haven't read them yet.) |
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Brin Londo!!!! He is one of my faves, along with the Ranzz twins. 
I didn't come back until issue #280. 
