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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 24, 2017 15:26:23 GMT -5
Yeah. Dream Girl was the third-to-last story- and she hadn't joined the Legion yet.
Lots of teasing potential new Legionaires at the end there. I think I saw Timber Wolf under a different name as well.
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 24, 2017 15:30:45 GMT -5
Yeah. Dream Girl was the third-to-last story- and she hadn't joined the Legion yet. Lots of teasing potential new Legionaires at the end there. I think I saw Timber Wolf under a different name as well. Lone Wolf. He was like a futuristic JD and Light Lass had a crush on him. Good girls can't resist bad boys, even in the 30th century. As the Shangri-Las informed us, "My folks were always putting him down They said he came from the wrong side of town They told me he was bad but I knew he was sad That's why I fell for the leader of the pack..." .jpg)  |
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Post by sabongero on Aug 8, 2018 12:30:57 GMT -5
I have only seen one LSH thread here which covered a couple of issues of reviews of a "Damned" LSH series. I am interested in reading about the LSH. I know there are many iterations of this team and has been rebooted more times than can be counted. There are the Legion of Super-Heroes volumes 1 to ... 5? Then you have the Legionnaires series, L.E.G.I.O.N. series, and then I came across a TPB of a R.E.B.E.L.S. which is also a Legion of Super-Heroes comic book series. Then there are the other variations which is too many to mention (i.e. Legion Lost, etc.).
I have read a few of the Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes. I wasn't familiar with the LSH, but have seen some of their characters in a Superboy cartoon series from the previous decade which spanned two seasons.
My question is what is your favorite LSH comic book series or run, and why that appealed to you? Was it because of the writer's approach to that particular series and year(s) it was written?
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 8, 2018 13:12:11 GMT -5
My favorite run of the LSH is the original run in Adventure Comics, especially the very early days when John Forte was the artist.
I started reading LSH just before the start of the Giffen run (so LSH #285 or so) and read it for three or four years. Those are great!
Over the last few years, I've gathered most of the issues from about #260 (when they finally dropped "Superboy and" from the title) to where I started collecting it back about 1980, and despite some rough spots, they are a lot of fun!
For more information on the LSH, check out the CCF LSH Appreciation Thread, which has been mostly dormant for a while.
I can't get the link to work, but it's called "Interlac Spoken Here."
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Post by Farrar on Aug 8, 2018 13:25:56 GMT -5
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Post by brutalis on Aug 8, 2018 13:49:06 GMT -5
Like Hoosier X I fell in love with the Legion concept in reprints of the early Forte/Swan art days. Then began to find the occasional Cockrum/Grell issues which then had me seriously searching for Legion comics all over. You can't go wrong with the Cockrum/Grell artistic runs. Lots of good stories there. Fantastic artwork with everything really taking a turn for the futuristic in style and tone. Bit of a roller coaster after Grell left with mainly James Sherman as artist with guest artists/writers. Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes #240 starts a Paul Levitz run followed by Gerry Conway then Roy Thomas where the LSH begin to really catch the fans attentions. Levitz then comes back with issue 284 to start his epic run and then once Keith Giffen takes over on art the LSH is a HOT property. Strong stories and inspired out there science fiction/fantasy art which work together creating the LSH buzz that continues after Giffen leaves and Steve Lightle doing art and and transitioning to Greg LaRocque art through issue 354. This long run is the Legion heyday for me. During this time you have Superboy/LSH becoming Tales of the Legion and Legion of Super-Heroes #1 starts up running to issue 63. So you have 2 series of LSH for awhile. Then The Legion restarts with a new #1 and Giffen doing scripts with the Bierbaum husband/wife team and art for what is the called the 5 year jump where the LSH grows up and becomes heavy sci-fi. Some liked this big time and others not so much. The series take on a heavier post apocalyptic/bloodier adult themed style and structure. You own mileage may vary. But as somebody who knew the teens from their earliest sillier incarnation and watching them grow and expand over time it helped this new maturity work as a very interesting change. |
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Post by tarkintino on Aug 8, 2018 14:48:02 GMT -5
My question is what is your favorite LSH comic book series or run, and why that appealed to you? Was it because of the writer's approach to that particular series and year(s) it was written? (late 1960s) through the Legion of Super Heroes in the mid 1980s. If I had to pick a period within that stretch of time, the early 1970s with Dave Cockrum would be my favorite above all else. |
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Post by sabongero on Aug 8, 2018 16:17:20 GMT -5
Wow! 25 pages worth of LSH. Thanks Farrar. Yes. Please merge this thread with that thread. I really appreciate the help. |
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Post by Farrar on Aug 8, 2018 16:45:41 GMT -5
Wow! 25 pages worth of LSH. Thanks Farrar. Yes. Please merge this thread with that thread. I really appreciate the help. Done! Thanks for bringing up the Legion sabongero, there are plenty of us LSH fans here. Me, I loved the Legion when they were in Adventure Comics, and the creative team was usually Shooter/Bridwell/Curt Swan/Pete Costanza. It's the only comic I ever had a subscription for. I was also inspired to seek out a lot of the back issues, the ones illustrated by John Forte and written by Edmond Hamilton. |
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Post by sabongero on Aug 8, 2018 16:46:20 GMT -5
Thanks for merging the threads Farrar. The only LSH I've read was the one from about 12 years ago and that extended run of 2 years starting from Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes where it was the beginning of the "One Year Later" storyarc.  |
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Post by brutalis on Aug 8, 2018 17:26:54 GMT -5
The really fun piece in reading/collecting the Legion is tier being around for so many decades that you can literally see/read the tonal changes and characterization/quirks of writers in every decade trying to do a "teen" comic that captures what is current and trendy. Sometimes it succeeds and other times you will groan and moan. The LSH starts as typical 50's jerk teen-age punks then the 60's has them acting a bit more like teens at the time and then the 70's jumps into hyper stylized future clothing optional mode and the 80's they turn back towards current comic book costume trends. The 90's go all emo-dating crazy and then by the 2000's the trend veers back towards modesty with full body costumes covering from neck to toe with stories trying to recapture the essence of early LSH that had kids buying it. Now DC seems lost on how to showcase and highlight the teens of the future without having them in the present here and now.
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 8, 2018 17:30:34 GMT -5
I didn't know about the newer Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes series. I have the Supergirl by Loeb and Churchill up to #9 so maybe I would like to check this out too.
I could reccomend starting on the '80s LSH comic with #283 as that's where I started at the time, just in time to get a few Pat Broderick issues and into Keith Giffen (before he tried to be Alex Toth and go too abstract and sometimes too jokey as well). Or you could start with #259 where they dropped Superboy from the title and logo.
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Post by String on Aug 8, 2018 17:49:00 GMT -5
I have only seen one LSH thread here which covered a couple of issues of reviews of a "Damned" LSH series. I am interested in reading about the LSH. I know there are many iterations of this team and has been rebooted more times than can be counted. There are the Legion of Super-Heroes volumes 1 to ... 5? Then you have the Legionnaires series, L.E.G.I.O.N. series, and then I came across a TPB of a R.E.B.E.L.S. which is also a Legion of Super-Heroes comic book series. Then there are the other variations which is too many to mention (i.e. Legion Lost, etc.). I have read a few of the Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes. I wasn't familiar with the LSH, but have seen some of their characters in a Superboy cartoon series from the previous decade which spanned two seasons. My question is what is your favorite LSH comic book series or run, and why that appealed to you? Was it because of the writer's approach to that particular series and year(s) it was written? I started the Legion of the Damned review thread which focused on the beginning story arc by writers Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (DnA). I think I only had one issue left to do of it though. My intention was to move onto their next maxi-series Legion Lost then their six issue mini-series Legion Worlds which leads into the team's title relaunch as simply Legion. However, I've tabled those goals for the moment because I want to make sure that I give those series proper justice by including more art samples and pages. DnA's writing was amazing, they injected a fresh sense of danger and excitement while bringing in more modern sci-fi concepts and themes that helped update the team. Their characterization was top-notch as during these various Legion limited series, they focused more on smaller groups of members and switched focus between those groups. By the the time the team was relaunched in their new title, it felt welcome and thrilling indeed. On the flip side, Coipel's art was equally amazing in support of these new threats and themes. Once again, a new artist with a distinctive style is given what had become a low-selling title(s) at that time and allowed to thrive and grow his art and it shows on every page. For me, I would put the team of DnA/Coipel right up there with Levitz/Giffen in terms of impact on the Legion. (Which is why I wanted to hold off on these later review threads so as to give Coipel his proper recognition in these runs). Thankfully, DC has wisely begun releasing new trade collections of DnA's Legion work in the last year or so. As for other LSH runs, certainly Levitz/Giffen (particularly the Baxter series of the 80s), Giffen's 5YL was provoking in the all the right ways. I'm a huge fan of the Zero Hour reboot Legion (the Threeboot Legion is what fandom named them I think). The Waid/Kitson Legion series turned the concept on it's head in an interesting way by making the Legion into more of a teen rebellion and offered some different takes on classic members and their homeworlds. |
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 8, 2018 18:34:19 GMT -5
Big Legion fan here, but my fav was the 5YL Giffen / Bierbaum series.
You never knew what was going to happen.
The Levitz / Giffen Baxter series before that was great and the Legionnaires series that spun out of Zero Hour was really a great balance of new and old.
I've said many times, the L.E.G.I.O.N. / R.E.B.E.L.S. series that spun out was one of the best sci-fi series I've ever read.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 8, 2018 18:58:14 GMT -5
I started during the Cockrum/Grell years, with Jim Shooter and some others on the writing. really liked the mix of superheroes and Star Trek/sci-fi. Read it off and on, for a while, with the Joe Staton-drawn books (Earthwar and after) and, especially, the Levitz and Giffen era (before and after the Great Darkness Saga). Those two took the Legion from popular, but cult book, into top mainstream title, mixing both Legion history and more modern threats.
I've tried later stuff; but, my interest usually didn't stick, through Giffen's 5 Years Later and the Giffen & Bierbaums' stories, to Waid and others. I've liked elements, here and there; but, there always seemed to be something that I missed or it just wasn't sustaining my interest; or, it felt like, "Been there, done that."
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