Interesting.

While I haven't seen BvS, Man of Steel established a "Jenny Olsen" in place of a Jimmy in the Snyderverse. So I guess Snyder isn't even paying attention to his own B.S.

Kevin Smith seems to have changed his tune according to his BvS review on the latest Fatman on Batman. Looks like he's able to enjoy it enough to ignore the glaring issues we've talked about here.

NSFW Language Alert:

So I saw it.
As everyone stated, it indeed had several flaws, mostly in the plot (the mechanics of why one does what most of the time) but...
This reminded me of a crucial point in my history with movies : the first time I ever watched Dario Argento's Suspuria, which was in my mid twenties, quite late in my relationship with movies.
By that point, with heavy exposure to the great classics of film from around the world, thanks to my family and abundance of art theaters in Paris, I had grown into favoring plot driven movies. So the premise of Suspuria seemed quite weak to me. But hten I saw the film, and even though the plot was even weaker than what I'd expected, the film became one of the most profound visual experience I ever had in front oof a movie.
I'm not saying Snyder is on par with ARgento, but he's meeting him halfways of sors.
Was the movie epic? Sure it was, I've never seen so much destruction ever in a movie, ever, not with that kind of physical impact. This was even depressing, just witnessing the destruction of the world. The music was actualy great as well, very different from the horror of Sucker Punch, one of the top 5 worst movies I ever saw.
So I guess that in the end, my major complain would be that the clunky plot got in the way of sheer spectacle, which to be honest is the one thing Snyder has the chops for.
One other issue with the movie I don't have is how bleak and joyless it is. I think this must come from a generation POV : Most of the people who have that stand started to read comics before the grim and political 80ies, which many welcomed as a nice breath of fresh air. I'm from a generation who started out in comics with those, so in the past few years, I welcomed bookslike Plasticman, Batgirl or Squirel Girl. But the dark and Gloom really is where I come from comicwise, so I really have no issue with that in a superhero movie. Most marvel movies have really dark and sinister villains, but the plot most often is adventures, people seeking power.
In this BVS, the villain don't look as grim as their actions, and Luthor's motives are more scary since they are more abstract.

To be honest, despite the clunkyness of its politics and philosophies, I greatly enjoyed that this movie at least attempted to have those, howvere I agree or disagree with those. So all in all, I liked it a lot for its ambitions, plus the fact that it had a lot to tell, I didn't feel cheated.
What I wish had been different is mostly from a "fan" perspective, which is irrelevant IMHO since WB/DC clearly stated that they wanted to let their director embrace their own vision, and boy did they with Snyder! One might pose as holder of truths and dismiss this movie for being uncharacteristic of the comics he loves, but it would be pretty hypocritic to consider Snyder not being a comicbook fan (his CV speaks for himself). But once again, even if it wasn't, this is irrelevant since Snyder is doing his movie, not yours, and every fan has a movie in his head different than any one else's.

On a final note, most of those dream sequences were amazing to watch, and the whole teasing of apokolips earth was enough to have me want for more, and the clues to the possibilities of a justice league obviously had joy in for the fan, I know I was excited! Even the classical ending in the grave had me sujectivly pumped .

So now, I can only imagine that the 30 mn longer extended cut will provide much grease to the mechanics, smooth out some hard transitions and plot points, flesh out Alfred, Lex and Diana a little more and I might end up very happy with the movie

LOL

Two-Face gives better odds

Much better

Even though I thought Affleck's Batman was the best part of the movie, aside from him murdering dudes left and right...the script also portrayed him as a total dumbass.

Worlds Greatest Detective?

Not in this universe

Now rumor has it that WB is considering rereleasing BvS later this year with the R-rated director's cut that was originally intended for the DVD releaseas a theatrical release instead. Since the movie is not exceeding box office expectations, you have to think they are trying to find a way to get the kind of return on investment from this movie they were hoping for, but didn't get because it didn't have legs at the box office.

-M

So a Batman and Superman film can't even make as much money as a rated R Deadpool film in the USA?

People in charge of the film division at Warner Brothers...PRESS HERE