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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 6, 2016 20:21:58 GMT -5
I do.. it's not like he's a cool alien that would sell figures no matter what... he's one of 5 characters that made it into the Mobile game, he's got action figures, and he's in the X-Wing miniature game. Then they went through the trouble of doing the comic about his parents... he's on the cover of the YA novel that just came out. That's alot of marketing... you didn't see that for Wedge... that a major character, IMO. Jar Jar had that kind of merchandise too...just saying  Jar Jar is more an example of how out of touch George Lucas was with his audience than how ephemera predicts future movie importants, I think  . And Jar Jar WAS important (as Arthur said)... just because he was ridiculously annoying doesnt' change that. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 6, 2016 21:43:07 GMT -5
I know that the bespectacled CGI lady said "it's a long story", but how did she end up owning Anakin's and Luke's blue light sabre? Didn't it fall down Cloud city's central shaft, along with Luke's right hand? The movie is ruiiiiiiined!
Not a big deal... I always hated the green light saber and always thought of the blue one as the proper one. I'm fine with it being back with no explanation; our imagination can fill the gap. Which is the way the movie went anout most things, and I'm fine with that approach.
(One other question: after the starkiller planet swallows up its sun to energize its big gun, how is it we can still see anything on it? When Rey and Junior face off in the forest, where is the light coming from? Ah, the joys of nitpicking!
And hey, yet another one: how does that big planet-killer ray work, exactly? I think they mention that it's faster than light (explaining how it can strike at distant star systems), but how can people see it coming? It's faster than light! In the best of case it travels at the speed of light, so,the first thing people should see is their planet exploding under them, not the ray becoming bigger and bigger in the sky! But that shot was just great. The sense of doom in it was awesome).
I really enjoyed that movie. I'm overjoyed that it ignored the "expanded universe" that had been built after RotJ. I laugh cruelly at hardcore fans who suffer because there were no A-wing, B-wing or lowercase omega-wing fighters anywhere in sight, nor references to the Jizz Wailers or to Admiral Thrawn.
Oh, it wasn't a game changer and certainly wasn't in the league of the original three films. It was like a well-made TV Star Wars special. But at no time during the viewing did I feel like looking at my watch, did I look at the ceiling in exasperation, or did I wish I had kept my money... all things that happened while watching the prequels.
One thing that made a big difference to me is the use of mechanical effects and real backgrounds. I hate, hate, hate the video game aesthetics that is prevalent in fantasy and sf movies nowadays, and seeing a Star Wars movie look like a Star Wars movie was a welcome surprise.
I wouldn't exactly say that "Star Wars is back", but since Disney seems determined to milk that cow for all it's worth, I'm perfectly happy with this kind of movie. Light, fun, well-made, and not too involved in its overly-analyzed make-believe world of Midichlorians and stuff. Withoutnthe creativity of the first Star Wars it had its innocence, and for that I'm pretty grateful.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 6, 2016 22:03:02 GMT -5
I know that the bespectacled CGI lady said "it's a long story", but how did she end up owning Anakin's and Luke's blue light sabre? Didn't it fall down Cloud city's central shaft, along with Luke's right hand? The movie is ruiiiiiiined! She traveled back in time to the post- Empire Strikes Back Marvel Comics years, where Luke's lightsaber had magically returned to him, after it had been lost down Cloud City's reactor shaft. Simples!  |
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Post by Dizzy D on Jan 7, 2016 4:27:11 GMT -5
I know that the bespectacled CGI lady said "it's a long story", but how did she end up owning Anakin's and Luke's blue light sabre? Didn't it fall down Cloud city's central shaft, along with Luke's right hand? The movie is ruiiiiiiined! She traveled back in time to the post- Empire Strikes Back Marvel Comics years, where Luke's lightsaber had magically returned to him, after it had been lost down Cloud City's reactor shaft. Simples! My vote: found by a cleaner, put on SpacE-bay. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 7, 2016 6:39:50 GMT -5
She traveled back in time to the post- Empire Strikes Back Marvel Comics years, where Luke's lightsaber had magically returned to him, after it had been lost down Cloud City's reactor shaft. Simples! My vote: found by a cleaner, put on SpacE-bay. I like that! Maybe that's how the First Order funded its new starkiller machine. |
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Post by Confessor on Jan 7, 2016 13:23:59 GMT -5
My vote: found by a cleaner, put on SpacE-bay. I like that! Maybe that's how the First Order funded its new starkiller machine. They got a great deal from "Honest" Tarkin Jr's Used Death Star Parts. They have a 100% positive feedback score and next day shipping. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 7, 2016 13:50:00 GMT -5
LOL.. it could really be something simple, like the Ugnaughts found it, gave it to Lando, and he gave it to her, so sold it to her. Perhaps it was in a corner and not found until Luke had vanished. Of course, that's not much of a story, so perhaps we'll get a comic (or a whole movie) on it |
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Jan 7, 2016 14:15:39 GMT -5
Not a big deal... I always hated the green light saber and always thought of the blue one as the proper one. Blasphemer! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 14:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 7, 2016 15:00:00 GMT -5
That sounds good pretty good! Also, it's totally amazing its STILL Alan Dean Foster doing the Novelization.
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Post by Mormel on Jan 7, 2016 15:20:50 GMT -5
I enjoyed Force Awakens MUCHLY, still I feel that, given the return to more practical effects, stunts, and sets-- they could have made Maz Kanata a mask or an animatronic puppet. I liked the character a lot, but her CG appearance almost took me out of the scenes she was in.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 7, 2016 15:50:20 GMT -5
That was interesting, but half of these weren't plot holes. Why would he bother? I can understand him protesting "hey, that's mine!" when some lowlifes steal junk in his own junkyard, but... it's still just junk (as anyone looking at the Falcon says). Worth shouting about in anger, sure, but hardly chasing it across space! WHO... CARES??? That's exactly the kind of stuff we can fill in ourselves, and props to Abrams for not wasting time on the subject. We saw Finn survive the crash. It's no stretch to imagine that Poe did as well. Trying to overexplain everything contributed to make the prequels so bad. Thirty years? They've been at odds for thirty years? That would be very surprising: Han last saw their son when he was old enough to become a big bad Jedi, and without his mask Ben doesn't look much older than his mid-twenties! I can't believe the marriage fell apart before their son was even born. Wasn't that...obvious? Not so much because Rey can use the Force, which I guess anyone could if sufficiently attuned to it, but because she knew things like "I can control weaker minds and convince them to release me from this cell", which probably wouldn't be the first thing to cross anyone's mind while in detention. I never considered, while watching the movie, that Rey was anything else than a Jedi child with a memory block (probably imposed to keep her safe, away from Kylo Ren and his Jedi-murdering buddies). She sure looks like she's Luke's daughter but that might be a red herring, of course. |
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Jan 8, 2016 8:03:02 GMT -5
There is so much Force Awakens clickbait out there right now that it's basically a minefield of nonsense.
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Post by stromseye on Jan 9, 2016 8:33:05 GMT -5
Any input about the latest rumor that Snoke actually is Darth Vader?  |
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Post by MatthewP on Jan 9, 2016 11:05:08 GMT -5
Any input about the latest rumor that Snoke actually is Darth Vader? Highly dubious, in my opinion. Not only did Vader die, but his body was burned and his spirit appeared alongside Obi-Wan and Yoda at the end of Return of the Jedi. To be Snoke, he would not only have to come back to life, but his turn to good would have to be undone, rendering the end of ROTJ immaterial, which would be sad. I'm rooting for some other origin for Snoke. |
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