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Post by Spike-X on Jan 23, 2016 17:58:03 GMT -5
That's what she said.
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 24, 2016 4:11:51 GMT -5
I appreciate how thick this one is, compared to the old flimsy ones.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 24, 2016 8:04:03 GMT -5
She said that too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 13:07:10 GMT -5
On a related note, Knights of the Dinner Table used this cover a couple of months back Jolly R. Blackburn has been writing and drawing the Knights strip since 1990. And he's proud to be closing in on the 300 issue mark. Granted, the series started as a one-page or one-panel strip in D&D related magazines. Granted, the book morphed into a role-playing mag itself a few years back, but still has 20+ pages of the Knights in every issue. And granted, I'm not putting Blackburn in the same class, artistically, as Sim or Sakai. But it's an achievement worth noting.
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 29, 2016 15:10:58 GMT -5
Excellent point. Blackburn is a contender that should have been mentioned by now.
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Post by Jeddak on Dec 4, 2017 21:13:51 GMT -5
Pardon the thread necromancy, but the good folk at KotDT are still excited about closing in on Sim's 300 issue mark
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Post by shaxper on Dec 4, 2017 21:32:03 GMT -5
Pardon the thread necromancy, but the good folk at KotDT are still excited about closing in on Sim's 300 issue mark Usagi Yojimbo's current status: 162 issues at Dark horse 54 issues before that 3x 3 issue limited series 2x stand alone graphic novel 1x 6 issue limited series numerous adventures in anthology books prior to that So he's around the 250 mark as well if you're counting everything, but he doesn't have an actual issue #250 published anywhere. Meanwhile, Savage Dragon is at #229.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 4, 2017 23:55:40 GMT -5
You might be surprised to learn that I dropped Savage Dragon with # 223. Erik Larsen continues to bash President Trump issue after issue and that's not why I purchase comics. That coupled with the fact that the original Lead has been killed off and his son is the star of the book, turned me off.
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Post by chadwilliam on Dec 5, 2017 2:00:28 GMT -5
You might be surprised to learn that I dropped Savage Dragon with # 223. Erik Larsen continues to bash President Trump issue after issue and that's not why I purchase comics. That coupled with the fact that the original Lead has been killed off and his son is the star of the book, turned me off. While I have no problem with Trump bashing, I was surprised to see that with the latest issue of Savage Dragon (228), Larsen has turned the series into a hardcore porn comic. Yes, I understand that such a statement sounds like hyperbole, but trust me, it isn't. I really think that Larsen is at a point where he feels that he might as well just do whatever he wants with the title, such are sales. I can't envision a time when Savage Dragon isn't part of Image's line-up since I can't imagine Larsen not playing an active role in the company, but it really seems like he's at a point where he's amusing himself by seeing what he can get away with.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 5, 2017 6:34:51 GMT -5
I have every Savage Dragon issue from the very first mini series and I have most of the mini series surrounding the book. I am a big Erik Larsen fan and I don't begrudge him addressing any subject that he wants to in his book, but sometimes you have to change the subject or lose your audience. I did hear a year or so ago that he was selling less than 5000 books a month. I don't know how he could sustain the book on those kind of numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 11:10:20 GMT -5
I have every Savage Dragon issue from the very first mini series and I have most of the mini series surrounding the book. I am a big Erik Larsen fan and I don't begrudge him addressing any subject that he wants to in his book, but sometimes you have to change the subject or lose your audience. I did hear a year or so ago that he was selling less than 5000 books a month. I don't know how he could sustain the book on those kind of numbers. That's typical mid range sales numbers for books published by anyone not Marvel or DC in today's market. Indy books selling over 10K are the exception, not the rule. Pretty much the bottom half of the Diamond top 300 every month sells under 10K and the last 100 on the list are usually at 5K or below. That's what the market is right now, and that's what sales are regardless of quality of content or topic. 5K is an average of 1 copy per Diamond account in North America. -M
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Post by Dizzy D on Dec 6, 2017 1:41:19 GMT -5
Also in case of Image creator also gets payment for digital sales and trade paperback sales (see Jim Zub's story about Wayward's sales recently), so those might be enough to keep the title afloat.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Dec 6, 2017 9:09:31 GMT -5
I have every Savage Dragon issue from the very first mini series and I have most of the mini series surrounding the book. I am a big Erik Larsen fan and I don't begrudge him addressing any subject that he wants to in his book, but sometimes you have to change the subject or lose your audience. I did hear a year or so ago that he was selling less than 5000 books a month. I don't know how he could sustain the book on those kind of numbers. According to ICV2, Savage Dragon #225, the 25th anniversary issue, sold an estimated 5,678 copies in July, but apart from that it doesn't seem to have featured in any of this year's top 300 charts, suggesting sales may be under 4k.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 6, 2017 10:48:06 GMT -5
I have every Savage Dragon issue from the very first mini series and I have most of the mini series surrounding the book. I am a big Erik Larsen fan and I don't begrudge him addressing any subject that he wants to in his book, but sometimes you have to change the subject or lose your audience. I did hear a year or so ago that he was selling less than 5000 books a month. I don't know how he could sustain the book on those kind of numbers. According to ICV2, Savage Dragon #225, the 25th anniversary issue, sold an estimated 5,678 copies in July, but apart from that it doesn't seem to have featured in any of this year's top 300 charts, suggesting sales may be under 4k. Usagi sells around 4,000 copies per issue. Of course, Usagi sells particularly well in trades, so Dark Horse isn't depending entirely upon the floppies for return on investment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 12:03:25 GMT -5
According to ICV2, Savage Dragon #225, the 25th anniversary issue, sold an estimated 5,678 copies in July, but apart from that it doesn't seem to have featured in any of this year's top 300 charts, suggesting sales may be under 4k. Usagi sells around 4,000 copies per issue. Of course, Usagi sells particularly well in trades, so Dark Horse isn't depending entirely upon the floppies for return on investment. There's currently a bundle sale on Usagi digital issues at either Dark Horse diital or Comixology (I forget which) $40 for every issue of vol. 2 and 3 I think was the offer. So don't forget about digital revenue as part of the equation for a book's viability, plus overseas sales which are not calculated in the Diamond numbers. -M
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