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Post by junkmonkey on May 18, 2020 19:00:48 GMT -5
"Shades of" nothing! The hat was a direct swipe from the great Mr H! Well spotted - though I did swap the original cap badge for the Planet Express logo. ...and while I'm at it I might as well confess that the sky in that one was lifted directly from a frame of the ship landing sequence in Forbidden Planet. A single, pixel wide vertical sample stretched across the frame.
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Post by junkmonkey on May 28, 2020 7:24:57 GMT -5
My current strip is taking STUPIDLY long to draw. It's not very long and not a lot happens in it - but it just seems to be taking forever to get onto the page. (I think I've lost confidence in it.) So here is a piece of displacement behaviour I indulged in today instead of getting on with it.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 7, 2020 23:40:29 GMT -5
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 7, 2020 23:41:48 GMT -5
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 7, 2020 23:44:42 GMT -5
Still W.I.P. It's doing my head in. Definitely bitten off too much. The level of detail in Mark Brook's cover was more than I could ignore, to my consternation.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 7, 2020 23:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 7, 2020 23:51:56 GMT -5
Go search Bill Sienkiewicz on Facebook, yes that one. A while back he posted a photo of himself posing for reference for a painting. Of course the internet being the internet he has been swamped with dozens if not hundreds of people borrowing his reference for their own version. My contribution which I'd love for him to see and comment on. O this thing was big enough for Neal Adam's to see and contribute to.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 7, 2020 23:56:21 GMT -5
This is actually finished but no photo. I think that went missing when I deleted them all cos I was convinced they were all ugly and I wanted to burn everything
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 0:08:43 GMT -5
Go search Bill Sienkiewicz on Facebook, yes that one. A while back he posted a photo of himself posing for reference for a painting. Of course the internet being the internet he has been swamped with dozens if not hundreds of people borrowing his reference for their own version. My contribution which I'd love for him to see and comment on. O this thing was big enough for Neal Adam's to see and contribute to. I posted about Bill's photo and posted several of the responses in the Comic Tidbits thread up in the classics section as I was fascinated by the response to this challenge, and these was so much of interest to be seen in it. -M
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 8, 2020 0:41:07 GMT -5
I read some very nice words about my work in the Awards thread, which in all honesty was very humbling. For starters I was never really sure if I should use this thread or start my own, and honestly didn't think anyone saw them anyway. I'm also very aware that my work isn't original, and am in awe of the others here doing their own thing. As I made allusions in an above post I'm struggling with confidence about my work. I only see the bad in the work, the detail I cant get, the painting techniques I just dont have, and lots of little mistakes I continue to make. I feel like I'm just fooling myself to think I can get "good enough". Its nice when friends, family, or fellow-geeks say nice things, but I know how amateurish my work is, and it rattles around in my head until I hear nothing else. I felt for a while it was easier to just stop, that dealing with NOT painting was easier than dealing with the voices. I'm still not sure. Current unfinished Mark Brooks swipe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 0:59:48 GMT -5
I read some very nice words about my work in the Awards thread, which in all honesty was very humbling. For starters I was never really sure if I should use this thread or start my own, and honestly didn't think anyone saw them anyway. I'm also very aware that my work isn't original, and am in awe of the others here doing their own thing. As I made allusions in an above post I'm struggling with confidence about my work. I only see the bad in the work, the detail I cant get, the painting techniques I just dont have, and lots of little mistakes I continue to make. I feel like I'm just fooling myself to think I can get "good enough". Its nice when friends, family, or fellow-geeks say nice things, but I know how amateurish my work is, and it rattles around in my head until I hear nothing else. I felt for a while it was easier to just stop, that dealing with NOT painting was easier than dealing with the voices. I'm still not sure. Current unfinished Mark Brooks swipe. To parallel it with writing, I struggle with my writing too, always thinking it's not good enough, yet it was good enough to get published in textbooks and rpg supplements, and I had an offer on the table to make a monograph of my master's thesis that fell through at different points in my life. I'm always my harshest critic. And the old rub, you have to write a million words of shite before you start writing anything of value has a lot of truth in it. It's the same with art-you have to go through producing a lot of stuff you aren't happy with before you can start producing stuff that you can live with in some ways, but the minute you start thinking I've got this or my stuff is great is when the warning lights should go on, because then the risk is stagnation and not working to improve your craft and getting better. Keep plugging away. If you do a piece and don't like it, well it happens to the best and worst of us if we are being honest with ourselves. Look at it again and see if there is something, anything in there you liked. Build on that. Next time find something different in it you liked and build on that. It's easy to look at your stuff, think this is crap, and get down or give up. Quitting is easy. Creating is hard. It's work. And it's harder to look at something you did and pick out the positives to build on, because it makes you realize there is more hard work to do before you get where you want to be. And it won't always be progress; there'll be plateaus and steps backwards to go with the moves forward. Frustration is part of it. And it's easy to give up. People expect most to give up! Perseverance is the key, and its easier said than done. If you have even the tiniest desire to keep going screaming against all the momentum to quit, just remember once you stop, it's even harder to get started again. So keep going. And don't worry about riffing off of or copying someone else's stuff. It's a valid way to learn. Lots of great artists and writers started out imitating others. Some made careers out of it It is what it is, so don't worry about it and just do what you do. You'll regret quitting more than you will ever hate the nagging insecurity as you do it. -M
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 8, 2020 3:52:25 GMT -5
Mate thank you, this place is so good for level headed advice and support at just the right time. I'm very aware of the "bad pages" idea, Wally Wood's 10000 pages before you do a good one etc. Even remember a series of articles that Dave Sim ran in Cerebus about this and self publishing. My intention from the start,Xmas last year, was to use the swiping as a means to teach myself and try to emulate some work. I had a number of Alex Ross pages I loved, and videos of him working taught me I didn't have to paint like watercolor should be . I've consciously tried to not get too down on individual pictures but see them as a series of small steps to trying my own work. Running out of paint in the lockdown didn't help, as well as an awful case of self doubt that gleefully tried to sabotage the entire thing for me. I'm also trying to juggle free time to workout and lose weight because of newly diagnosed type 2 diabetes. So I get sick, stop smoking, the apocalypse happens, eminent redundancy, no more sugar, give up normal beer, and start exercising. Thank goodness we have comics...oh wait...the apocalypse may have killed that too.
Thanks for the kind words, I'm gunna try and figure out how to save.that Cap picture.
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Post by junkmonkey on Jun 10, 2020 8:07:33 GMT -5
After weeks of not having a single original thought, this hit me as I was half way down the stairs yesterday afternoon. A genuine moment of inspiration. Oh, I miss it so!
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 30, 2020 20:43:25 GMT -5
Have I ever shared my deciphering of the real meaning of ice hockey?
Basically it's: puck = sperm, net = the egg, air horns and happy players and fans = the big 'O'. The foundation of Canadian culture (along with playing Hide The Moose in the winter, Old Style Pilsner, and Hawkins brand Cheezies snacks).
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 1, 2020 3:25:53 GMT -5
Have I ever shared my deciphering of the real meaning of ice hockey? Basically it's: puck = sperm, net = the egg, air horns and happy players and fans = the big 'O'. (...) You also just described soccer (i.e., real football), basketball, handball and water polo, to name a few.
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