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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 29, 2015 17:26:21 GMT -5
Homage or swipe, That is the question. There have been many covers and pages that looked strangely familiar. I'll start with this one:   |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 29, 2015 18:19:50 GMT -5
Its a homage when they give visible credit to the originator and should also pay a royalty (just like sampling in music)
Otherwise its theft which you can also call swipe
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 18:21:36 GMT -5
Out of those three, I want to read Ka-Zar in space. That has to be full of exceptional nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 18:42:12 GMT -5
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 29, 2015 18:58:58 GMT -5
Its a homage when they give visible credit to the originator and should also pay a royalty (just like sampling in music) Otherwise its theft which you can also call swipe I also consider it an homage when the source is so well known everybody knows it. Mind you, the original artist should still be credited, but if not, it's usually obvious that the current artist expects that everyone will get the reference. Swipes are harder to find, since they rely on people not realizing there is a source cover being used, so by nature the original covers are less well known. Swipe:  |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 29, 2015 19:06:25 GMT -5
Out of those three, I want to read Ka-Zar in space. That has to be full of exceptional nonsense. I've read it, and it most certainly is full of nonsense. Last issue of the series, and they pretty much threw any and every thing they could onto the pages. |
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Post by Farrar on Dec 29, 2015 19:14:11 GMT -5
Whereas this Jim Lee cover from earlier in 2015 is intended as an homage, as on the middle right side of the cover it's noted "after Kane" (the Gil Kane Avengers #145 cover shown in Crimebuster's post). The Superman cover shown in the OP also has an "after Steranko" notation.  EDIT: So, for this cover and the Superman cover, the later-day artists are acknowledging their debt to the inspiration-covers' artists, in case readers don't recognize or are unaware of the source covers. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 19:34:56 GMT -5
To me it's a homage if it's meant to be noticed. Nobody is "swiping" the cover to Action #1. When you see it you know what it's referencing, like an inside joke.
It's a swipe to me when it's using an interior panel of an obscure page and is being essentially traced without reference. Pretty much if it's on the cover it's okay if it's on the inside it's a swipe.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 29, 2015 20:43:40 GMT -5
Out of those three, I want to read Ka-Zar in space. That has to be full of exceptional nonsense. It was a pretty funny story, in which Ka-Zar (for his last issue) is sent to the land of cancelled heroes. At the time, he had the dubious honor of being the hero with the most cancelled series! |
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 29, 2015 23:13:33 GMT -5
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Post by Spike-X on Dec 30, 2015 2:54:45 GMT -5
Its a homage when they give visible credit to the originator and should also pay a royalty (just like sampling in music) Otherwise its theft which you can also call swipe Byrne got around that by swiping from himself!    |
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 30, 2015 7:19:53 GMT -5
Byrne is a multiple offender  
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 7:44:04 GMT -5
But, Byrne's art, though. I love it.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 30, 2015 9:19:40 GMT -5
I've often wondered whether this was deliberate or just mundane coincidence:
 
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 9:19:47 GMT -5
Out of those three, I want to read Ka-Zar in space. That has to be full of exceptional nonsense. It was a pretty funny story, in which Ka-Zar (for his last issue) is sent to the land of cancelled heroes. At the time, he had the dubious honor of being the hero with the most cancelled series! Nuh uh. You cannot be serious! If so, then I'll have to read it. IMMEDIATELY. |
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