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Post by The Captain on Jul 9, 2017 18:46:33 GMT -5
Vibranium end game? Imagine the weapons he could make with that--and as a bookend to his hatred of Cap, using a weapon made from the same material as Cap's shield. Only problem with this theory is that the idea of Cap's shield being made of vibranium is not introduced until Captain America #303, when, as part of a retcon, it is written that Dr. Myron MacLain accidentally stumbled upon the unique composition of materials while trying to build indestructible tanks for the US war effort in WWII. At the point that this issue was written, it was only known that Cap's shield was near-indestructible, not how that was possible.
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Post by tarkintino on Jul 11, 2017 6:36:43 GMT -5
Vibranium end game? Imagine the weapons he could make with that--and as a bookend to his hatred of Cap, using a weapon made from the same material as Cap's shield. Only problem with this theory is that the idea of Cap's shield being made of vibranium is not introduced until Captain America #303, when, as part of a retcon, it is written that Dr. Myron MacLain accidentally stumbled upon the unique composition of materials while trying to build indestructible tanks for the US war effort in WWII. At the point that this issue was written, it was only known that Cap's shield was near-indestructible, not how that was possible. Completely forgot about #303! Then, the only logical reason is that Zemo was there to exploit another resource, but one that had to have a "get Cap" endgame attached, since Zemo--like many of Cap's foes--were obsessed with him to a Green Goblin-to-Spider-Man level.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 28, 2017 19:20:49 GMT -5
Captain America #100"This Monster Unmasked!" Writer: Stan Lee Art: Jack Kirby (pencils) and Syd Shores (inks) Cover Date: April 1968 SynopsisFlashback to Steve Rogers frozen in ice, worshiped by the Inuit, until Namor comes along and throws the chunk of ice into the ocean, where the warmer waters melt it. The scene shifts to a gathering of Avengers hovering over the unconscious Captain America, who eventually comes to, ranting about Bucky dying... ...which turns into the realization that he is back in the present, trapped with Black Panther at the mercy of Baron Zemo and Irma Kruhl (a disguised Agent 13), who has been ordered to kill them. She hesitates, so Zemo tells her to pull the trigger or else die with the heroes, so as to keep her cover intact, she fires but misses high intentionally, a fact not lost on Cap. Telling Zemo there will be time to kill them later and that the mission to destroy every missile base on earth matters more, she manages to deflect Zemo's attention from Cap and Black Panther and gets him to explain how his solar ray is operated while Cap and Black Panther devise a plan for escape. Before they can strike at Zemo, however, Agent 13 reveals herself by using a miniature flame-thrower (smartly hidden within her attache), blowing up the control panel for the death ray. Zemo orders her killed as she tries to escape, so Cap and Black Panther quickly join the fight to even the odds. The three of them take out many of Zemo's soldiers, but they are unable to keep him from summoning reinforcements. Realizing they need to get away, the heroes make their way through the complex, only to run headfirst into another cadre of Zemo's men. Ducking back into a tunnel, they find an air vent that leads away, but to where, they don't know. Zemo rallies his troops at this time, reminding them that at the other end of the vent, the Destructon stands guard. Black Panther exits the vent first and is hit from behind by the robotic guard, and he distracts it, Cap sneaks up from behind and knocks it away, doing no damage however. They both engage it in hand-to-hand combat, which is ineffective, as is the bullet that Agent 13 fires at it, but Cap eventually finds the function controls, which he disables just as Zemo and his men enter. Cap engages Zemo, grabbing him and removing his mask, revealing an impostor in the form of Zemo's former pilot, who was present the day the real Baron Zemo died. Furious at his deception, the soldiers shoot and kill him, at which point Black Panther convinces them to lay down their arms in exchange for a fair trial. Cap and Agent 13 then discuss their future, while Nick Fury and Dum Dum Dugan blow up the death ray. After that, Black Panther flies Cap, Agent 13 and himself back to America, during which time Cap extends an offer to T'Challa to join the Avengers. My ThoughtsI have mixed feelings about the Baron Zemo impostor reveal. On one hand, I was glad it was not another "back from the dead" situation, which we saw recently with the Red Skull. However, Zemo's pilot? Was this guy such a criminal mastermind that he could easily strap on Zemo's hood and coordinate something as complex as a global terrorist organization, complete with solar death ray? It either gives this schlub way too much credit or it diminishes what actual super-villains do as being something anyone can do. In relation to the above, on page seven, "Zemo" runs down the rabbit trail of leading questions from Agent 13 like a deranged bloodhound, explaining exactly how his machine works and what defenses it has in its forcefield. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but maybe the one thing he did actually share with the real Baron Zemo was overbearing arrogance. I've written it before, but for my money, Agent 13 is the best Silver Age Lee/Kirby female character. Sure, she has been captured and had to play "damsel in distress", but she kicks butt more often than not. In this story, without her, Cap and Black Panther would have both been killed (excepting any plot-induced stupidity from Zemo or his henchmen), as she saves both them and the world with quick thinking and a miniaturized flame thrower(?!) hidden in her case. She also volunteers to stay back and hold off Zemo's men because she's the one with the gun, and she ably fights Zemo's men as well as either of the costumed heroes. Lastly, she gets respect from Dum Dum, who replies to Fury's comment about the force field being down with "It figgers!--Agent 13 wuz on the job!" Something I really didn't like was the Destructon, yet another in a line of robot guardians/assassins that Lee and Kirby kept putting into this title. Sadly, beyond it being yet another boring robot, it had a horrible design, with reddish "skin" covered by a green helmet, diaper, and boots. On the plus side: no nipples! Lastly, I did like how Zemo's men were pissed off at the impostor for deceiving them, ending his life with a well-placed bullet. Even though they're evil henchmen, you have to respect their loyalty, as they did it because they "only serve Zemo". My Grade: BThis was a nice upgrade over the previous chapter of the story in ToS #99. It was well-paced, had some nice action sequences drawn by Kirby that highlighted his skill with those types of scenes, and there was no glaring plot-induced stupidity on anyone's part. If there is anything to quibble about, it would be that for this being the first issue of Cap's solo title, he was truly upstaged by Agent 13 in the heroics department.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 29, 2017 8:34:06 GMT -5
My biggest complaint about Captain America #1/100 is the same one I have about Incredible Hulk #1/102, Iron Man #1, Sub-Mariner #1, Captain Marvel #1, and (years later) Man-Thing #1 and Werewolf By Night #1: the first issue of a new title should not feature the conclusion of a storyline begun in another title! And you can blame Kirby for the Destructron, as he almost certainly added that character to the mix without ant input beforehand from Stan. But I sure do love that Kirby/Shores art!
Cei-U! I summon the poor, poor planning on somebody's part
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Post by The Captain on Aug 29, 2017 10:57:09 GMT -5
Agree with you on this, Kurt. The cynic in me thinks they did it to goose sales of the new book, the optimist in me just wants to think they reached a logical point to split the title and this was an unexpected result, and the realist in me knows it was a little bit of both.
The art is very nice to look at. There is a panel about midway through where Cap, Black Panther, and Agent 13 are being surrounded by Zemo's men, and even though there is a lot going on in it, the panel never seems claustrophobic to me. That's why Kirby was the King, in spite of crap like Destructon.
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Post by tarkintino on Aug 30, 2017 0:39:00 GMT -5
Captain America #100"This Monster Unmasked!" Writer: Stan Lee Art: Jack Kirby (pencils) and Syd Shores (inks) Cover Date: April 1968 At long last, Cap is back in a solo title--the first since 1954. Well deserved for such an exciting , yet complex character. Its understandable for Cap to be so tormented by Buvky's death, as it was the worst kind of PTSD. Long before the Winter Soldier retcon, Cap had watched Bucky's body blown apart by the drone plane's bomb, so he--almost above all other characters, with the exception of Bruce Wayne--was more than justified. That, and it made him one of the most dramatic figures in the Marvel line-up. Love the natural way Cap, Black Panther & Agent 13 work so well together. Cap seemed to be a better personality fit with them as opposed to some of the Avengers. I also appreciate how no one was ever brilliant enough, or diabolical enough to be another Zemo (and never shared the WW2 history & tragedy), with death being the only thing the pretenders had in common with the original Baron (as we will see in the 1970s). The In-Name-Only Zemos were not going to do anything other than remind the reader how they would never rise to stand with Red Skull, Hydra, Dr. Faustus and others as part of Cap's rogues' gallery. Agreed. The key was that she was an agent--and in keeping with pulp story traditions, serials and other influences, she had to be sharp, fearless and capable, instead of standing in the background with one, worried hand covering her mouth and/or pressed against her face, like early Jane Foster, Invisible Girl & Marvel Girl. On the romance front, who else would be a better girl for Cap than someone who is as grounded as he is, yet able to face as fantastic a threat as any costumed character. ...Syd Shores' inks provided a wealth of attractive "guidance" to Kirby's pencils, adding more shape to what could have been robotic forms.
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Post by tarkintino on Aug 30, 2017 0:45:29 GMT -5
My biggest complaint about Captain America #1/100 is the same one I have about Incredible Hulk #1/102, Iron Man #1, Sub-Mariner #1, Captain Marvel #1, and (years later) Man-Thing #1 and Werewolf By Night #1: the first issue of a new title should not feature the conclusion of a storyline begun in another title! The titles were serving two purposes: launching a character popular enough to hold his own (obviously), but to maintain a smooth flow of continuity for the reader. Rather than have Tales of Suspense #99 have a hard series finale, it was logical for the characters to take the readers by the hand and run them into the new title with no hiccups that would've rubbed some the wrong way, as it would be suggesting Cap's ToS stories were some other era now closed, instead of this ever-growing saga built so carefully since his revival.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 30, 2017 7:17:57 GMT -5
My biggest complaint about Captain America #1/100 is the same one I have about Incredible Hulk #1/102, Iron Man #1, Sub-Mariner #1, Captain Marvel #1, and (years later) Man-Thing #1 and Werewolf By Night #1: the first issue of a new title should not feature the conclusion of a storyline begun in another title! The titles were serving two purposes: launching a character popular enough to hold his own (obviously), but to maintain a smooth flow of continuity for the reader. Rather than have Tales of Suspense #99 have a hard series finale, it was logical for the characters to take the readers by the hand and run them into the new title with no hiccups that would've rubbed some the wrong way, as it would be suggesting Cap's ToS stories were some other era now closed, instead of this ever-growing saga built so carefully since his revival. I think it was more basic than that. Martin Goodman's decision to expand the line--which seems to have been sprung on Stan and the Bullpen rather abruptly--was made without regard for where in their storylines the "graduating" characters were. Suspense became Captain America (and Astonish became Incredible Hulk) when they did, because the schedule said they did. By contrast, the splitting of Strange Tales happened far enough out that the creators responsible for Dr. Strange #1/179 and Nick Fury #1 had time to wrap up past stories and start fresh. Cei-U! I summon the no-compromise deadlines!
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Post by tarkintino on Aug 30, 2017 13:32:11 GMT -5
The titles were serving two purposes: launching a character popular enough to hold his own (obviously), but to maintain a smooth flow of continuity for the reader. Rather than have Tales of Suspense #99 have a hard series finale, it was logical for the characters to take the readers by the hand and run them into the new title with no hiccups that would've rubbed some the wrong way, as it would be suggesting Cap's ToS stories were some other era now closed, instead of this ever-growing saga built so carefully since his revival. I think it was more basic than that. Martin Goodman's decision to expand the line--which seems to have been sprung on Stan and the Bullpen rather abruptly--was made without regard for where in their storylines the "graduating" characters were. Suspense became Captain America (and Astonish became Incredible Hulk) when they did, because the schedule said they did. By contrast, the splitting of Strange Tales happened far enough out that the creators responsible for Dr. Strange #1/179 and Nick Fury #1 had time to wrap up past stories and start fresh. Cei-U! I summon the no-compromise deadlines! With Cap, #100 continued a ToS story, so readers simply moved from one title to its new version, but retained his developing plotlines. I feel that worked well, since I cannot recall readers being confused by the change, but appreciated uninterrupted world-building.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 2, 2017 15:26:44 GMT -5
Captain America #101"When Wakes the Sleeper!" Writer: Stan Lee Art: Jack Kirby (pencils) and Syd Shores (inks) Cover Date: May 1968 SynopsisCap is fighting Werner von Krimp, an escaped Nazi war criminal known as the "Butcher of Lichtengarten", and his men on the streets of New York. He is tackled by the henchmen, and as von Krimp moves in for the kill, the Nazi is stopped by Nick Fury. von Krimp claims to be a jewelry merchant carrying valuable merchandise while in the company of his bodyguards, only to have been attacked by Captain America; Fury looks at his credentials, says the story checks out, and lets him go, to Cap's horror. Cap presses him on that, and Fury says he planted a tracer on the ID card von Krimp had given him, as SHIELD wants him to lead them to bigger game... ...which is elsewhere, in the form of the Red Skull, who awaits von Krimp's arrival with the key to awaken the Fourth Sleeper. The Red Skull monologues to his henchmen how he escaped death most recently (in Tales of Suspense #91) so that he could finish what Hitler started with the Sleeper program. Cap follows the signal in a miniature saucer-type ship from SHIELD that rides on magnetic force waves. His airborne trip is cut short, however, as he is shot out of the air, but he survives the fall by activating the "transparent inflato suit" he's wearing, a device that had been designed for SHIELD by Tony Stark. He's hunted through the jungle by the Red Skull's men, and he takes the fight to them, beating a number of them before being pistol-whipped from behind. The Red Skull and von Krimp meet up, and just as Red Skull takes possession of the key he'd talked about earlier, Cap is brought in as a captive. From its crypt where it lay dormant for two decades, the Fourth Sleeper arises, terrifying the Red Skull's men, which allows Cap to break free. He and Red Skull struggle for control of the key, but the villain escapes down a hidden hatch, with Cap in hot pursuit. In the room they just left, the Fourth Sleeper emits a titanic blast, like a volcano erupting, shaking the entire facility. At the bottom of the escape shaft, Cap and the Red Skull fight once again for the key, which Cap wrests from his enemy's grasp just as the outer wall collapses, letting ocean water rush in and washing the two men away. As time passes, there is global ruin as the Fourth Sleeper continues to erupt, destroying buildings, ships, and coastlines. Nick Fury and Agent 13 huddle up to discuss events, with Fury admitting he sent Cap after the Red Skull; he says that if this is happening, Cap is probably dead...but he isn't, as he rises from the ocean, clutching the Sleeper's key and wondering how he will ever stop its rampage. My ThoughtsIt's way too soon for another Red Skull comeback. This is the second time that the Skull has cheated his apparent death (having disappeared at the end of both ToS #81 and #91), and while I understand Stan and Jack wanting to get Cap's solo series started with a storyline against his iconic enemy, it's beginning to lose its impact already. Part of this is their failure to create any other sustainable villains for Cap (Batroc is fine, as is the ongoing fight with AIM and Hydra, but MODOK was introduced and seemingly killed, and I don't count The Tumbler or The Planner as worthy), but it's getting very repetitive very fast. Ditto for revealing a Fourth Sleeper. Again, I get they were going for "big", but we've seen Sleepers before, and this thing is just their big brother. I guess they could continue to roll out more Sleepers any time they wanted, saying it was yet another phase of Hitler's plan, but I don't see how more of them would be compelling. "Magnetic force waves" - Drink! Just before Cap is shot down, he remarks that he's being targeted by a ground-based "vibra-gun", but how does he know that simply by looking at it from the air? This is one place where Stan should have ignored his urge for clunky, overbearing exposition and just allowed the "vibra-gun" to do its thing, then had Cap comment on the aftermath rather than taking an impossibly-accurate wild-ass guess ahead of time. Stark's "inflato suit" is the forerunner of the inflatable sumo suits that drunken college guys put on and fight in at bars. Just silly stuff. As far as supervillains go, Red Skull seems pretty pathetic here, boasting of waking the Sleeper in one panel, then turning tail and running from it in the next when it starts blowing his facility up. Not exactly your best-thought-out plan, huh? My Grade: CYet another go-round with the Red Skull, using a retread weapon like the Sleeper, just doesn't feel fresh, and by adding in some Silly Silver Age Science with Cap's craft and inflato suit, it's not a great kick-off to the first ongoing storyline for Cap's new series.
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 2, 2017 16:39:27 GMT -5
Not having read the earlier Sleepers storyline or the Skull appearance in ToS #90-91 at the time this three-issue arc came out, it was all fresh and new to 10-year-old me, and all that Kirby tech with those wonderfully textured Syd Shores inks blew my li'l mind. It's too bad the book promptly goes down the craphole after thus until Steranko steps in.
Cei-U! I summon all those drawings I did of the Fourth Sleeper as a kid!
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 2, 2017 18:59:40 GMT -5
The titles were expanded because Marvel wasn't bound by the more limited number of titles by the distributor any more. It was purely a business decision and had nothing to do with story or continuity. And I don't recall Marvel readers complaining. We were happy these characters were getting full book for their own. Now the hard to find Iron Man & Sub-Mariner #1 is another story.
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Post by Rob Allen on Sept 2, 2017 19:46:04 GMT -5
I did read the original Sleepers story, and when this fourth one came out I thought, "Another Sleeper? Have you run out of ideas?". When the fifth one came out, I was really disappointed and disillusioned.
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Post by tarkintino on Sept 2, 2017 23:15:36 GMT -5
It's too bad the book promptly goes down the craphole after thus until Steranko steps in. I would not go that far. #107 and #109 were standout issues--particularly as this period of stories essentially setting up Cap's motives in Avengers#56.
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Post by berkley on Sept 2, 2017 23:43:16 GMT -5
I remember that Sleeper issue vaguely - pretty sure it was the very first issue of Captain America I ever read as a small kid (I don't recall reading any of the Tales of Suspense stories).
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