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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 23, 2016 14:45:32 GMT -5
Any fans of "The Big Red Cheese" here? Been in love with the character since my youth, my first exposure to him being "Adventures In The DC Universe #7"  Aside from "The Power Of Shazam!", it just seems like another one of those cases where DC has absolutely no idea what to do with the various properties it's acquired from other companies |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 23, 2016 15:12:32 GMT -5
I very much enjoy the few Fawcett issues I've managed to acquire at a reasonable price, but I've never cared for any of the DC incarnations; not even Jeff Smith's version.
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 16:02:37 GMT -5
Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 23, 2016 16:02:37 GMT -5
I very much enjoy the few Fawcett issues I've managed to acquire at a reasonable price, but I've never cared for any of the DC incarnations; not even Jeff Smith's version. See, I loved Jeff Smith's take, in fact that's one of my favorite books! It's just a big, colorful fun adventure and we don't get very much of that these days. As for some other recent stuff I also really enjoyed the Johnny DC version that they put out like ten years ago, and even more recently I liked Grant Morrison's one shot and the two part Convergence story was great too but on the whole I agree most of the attempts are half hearted at best. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 23, 2016 16:04:54 GMT -5
Oh, you mean Captain Marvel.
(I am still a little mad about the name change.)
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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 23, 2016 16:06:42 GMT -5
Oh, you mean Captain Marvel. (I am still a little mad about the name change.) Yeah, I am too, especially considering that the Rick Jones era of Captain Marvel had some Shazam! influences |
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 16:17:21 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 16:17:21 GMT -5
I've always thought he was a better character than Superman.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 16:42:00 GMT -5
My first exposure as a kid was this show on Saturday morning tv.... .jpg) never read much of him in comics until I stumbled on this book in the local library...  (without the dustjacket) and then found this at a local video store for rent (long before DVD was even on the market)...  The first series I ever bought was the terrible...  Shazam New Beginning Mini that spun out of Legends. The only modern version I have read (not read the Jeff Smith version) that I even remotely liked was Ordway's Power of Shazam series...  and I absolutely loathe the new52 version and rank it as probably the worst of the changes the new52 wrought ( Inever made it past the first few back ups by Johns and Franks so if they got any better I wouldn't know but it was worse than the Thomas/Mandrake post Legends reboot in terms of losing all of the characters charm and heart. -M |
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 18:01:16 GMT -5
Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 23, 2016 18:01:16 GMT -5
Oh, you mean Captain Marvel. (I am still a little mad about the name change.) Yeah, I am too, especially considering that the Rick Jones era of Captain Marvel had some Shazam! influences Because of Roy Thomas! (Who probably wasn't 100% happy with Marvel stealing the name himself.) But, yeah, big fan. I have a little collection of coverless or pages-missing or water damaged Fawcett Books (the only kind that are in my price range) and a few nicer Hoppy the Marvel Bunnys. Always just consistently fun books. I liked the Jeff Smith version as well, and honestly, the New 52 take on the character worked pretty well for me. |
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 18:09:24 GMT -5
Post by Batflunkie on Jan 23, 2016 18:09:24 GMT -5
I liked the Jeff Smith version as well, and honestly, the New 52 take on the character worked pretty well for me. I'm still kind on the fence about the new 52 incarnation. It had a lot of things that I liked, but at the same time, it lacked a lot of the heart that I feel made Captain Marvel so special in the first place |
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 18:53:46 GMT -5
Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 23, 2016 18:53:46 GMT -5
My first exposure as a kid was this show on Saturday morning tv.... never read much of him in comics until I stumbled on this book in the local library... (without the dustjacket) and then found this at a local video store for rent (long before DVD was even on the market)... The first series I ever bought was the terrible... Shazam New Beginning Mini that spun out of Legends. The only modern version I have read (not read the Jeff Smith version) that I even remotely liked was Ordway's Power of Shazam series... and I absolutely loathe the new52 version and rank it as probably the worst of the changes the new52 wrought ( Inever made it past the first few back ups by Johns and Franks so if they got any better I wouldn't know but it was worse than the Thomas/Mandrake post Legends reboot in terms of losing all of the characters charm and heart. -M The nu52 definitely got better as it went, I think the scene with Billy at the zoo talking to Tawny the tiger is actually one of my favorite scenes from a comic in a long time. That said, since establishing him I don't think they've done much with him though I'm not the best expert as I stopped reading Justice League after the back ups ended. |
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 19:25:58 GMT -5
Post by Action Ace on Jan 23, 2016 19:25:58 GMT -5
Like mrp, I first encountered Captain Marvel on tv. He's been one of my top ten favorites ever since.
I've got all the Archives DC made and I bought the entire 1970s series. I picked up a few issues of that series as a kid and was quite happy to see him show up in World's Finest. I also agree with mrp that the New Beginning mini series was awful. I picked up the Power of Shazam! graphic novel when it came out and bought the series every month. I enjoyed that series quite a bit.
There are two recent series I greatly enjoyed, Jeff Smith's Monster Society of Evil and Mike Kunkel's Bily Batson and the Magic of Shazam! The New52 version had a rough start, but he falls into the like column for me these days. I hope Geoff Johns will be putting out Shazam! #1 later this year.
I have the DVD of his movie serial and now hope to read the rest of his Golden Age stories someday.
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 20:14:21 GMT -5
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Post by Gene on Jan 23, 2016 20:14:21 GMT -5
Big fan. I'm a long time subscriber to the notion of the superhero as adolescent male power fantasy, so having a character that transforms from child/teen into a super powered adult has always worked for me.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 23, 2016 20:18:48 GMT -5
Big fan. I'm a long time subscriber to the notion of the superhero as adolescent male power fantasy, so having a character that transforms from child/teen into a super powered adult has always worked for me. That's part of the reason why I initially enjoyed Prime from the Malibu Ultraverse so much. Also liked the idea of full grown man with an adolescent brain more than just a child transforming into an adult |
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 20:29:14 GMT -5
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Post by Gene on Jan 23, 2016 20:29:14 GMT -5
Big fan. I'm a long time subscriber to the notion of the superhero as adolescent male power fantasy, so having a character that transforms from child/teen into a super powered adult has always worked for me. That's part of the reason why I initially enjoyed Prime from the Malibu Ultraverse so much. Also liked the idea of full grown man with an adolescent brain more than just a child transforming into an adult I thought Ordway nailed the idea of Cap keeping Billy's personality when he transformed. He kept the childlike excitement, but was smarter about using it. Too many writers want to swing too far in one direction or the other, with Cap either acting like a punk kid or turning into "Captain Whitebread." |
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Shazam!
Jan 23, 2016 20:41:50 GMT -5
Post by Pharozonk on Jan 23, 2016 20:41:50 GMT -5
I've never read anything from Captain Marvel's Fawcett years, but I love the Jerry Ordway series from the 90's.
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