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Post by Trevor on Jan 24, 2016 13:29:29 GMT -5
I should have changed my username to "Trevor the Conquered" when I got married. That'll amp up the confusion.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 13:29:49 GMT -5
The way I see it "comic collecting" covers two hobbies: collecting comics "for content" and collecting comics "as objects," for lack of better terms. I'm a walker between both worlds. I'd pick up heaps of bronze age Archies that will never sell more for $1 each simply because I adore Archies and have lots and lots and lots of them. I'd also pick up a slabbed Golden Age Archie because it DOES have a commodity value as well as being a favourite character. This. And it doubly (or triply?) sucks for me because I love hardcover collections, but I also know nothing beats the original single (floppy) issues for old books. So, I love those, too, but I only have so much room to store things. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jan 24, 2016 15:03:04 GMT -5
Really? Trevor and Trebor the Unconquered is that similar? If I change it to Robert the Unconquered will that help? Yes. And I think it would be for the best. Thank you. Wait. Wait. I wanted your name changed to Hot Jacuzzi but you wouldn't because your old man Tom Waits would get sore
And now you conquer Trebor into changing his?
You are sooooo audacious
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 24, 2016 16:10:20 GMT -5
There is nothing logical about collecting and said collectibles being worth millions of dollars when you get right down to it. People decide that Action Comics #1 is worth millions because it has historical significance as an object. Okay, I get it, but fundamentally it's still a collection of paper that cost cents to produce. I completely understand people of moderate means stumbling over an issue of Action #1 or Detective #27 and selling them for a fortune, but I'll never be able to understand the mentality of people, even though they have vast resources, who would spend that much money for something like that. It becomes about the object itself and not the content and characters, which is problematic to me. Well, supply and demand are things. There is a very limited supply. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 24, 2016 16:15:20 GMT -5
There is nothing logical about collecting and said collectibles being worth millions of dollars when you get right down to it. People decide that Action Comics #1 is worth millions because it has historical significance as an object. Okay, I get it, but fundamentally it's still a collection of paper that cost cents to produce. I completely understand people of moderate means stumbling over an issue of Action #1 or Detective #27 and selling them for a fortune, but I'll never be able to understand the mentality of people, even though they have vast resources, who would spend that much money for something like that. It becomes about the object itself and not the content and characters, which is problematic to me. Well, supply and demand are things. There is a very limited supply. I don't think it's quite that logical. "Supply and demand" is used to describe an entire economic system with many participants on both sides of the equation, normalizing the exchange rate. But the going cost of an Action #1 or Detective #27 can be set by as few as two high rolling billionaires. Their demand determines the price for the entire market. Once one copy sells for an absurdly high price because of their bidding war, no seller is going to let the next copy sell for much less, and they will sit on it for years if necessary to get that price. So the price will not fall when the demand dries up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 16:16:27 GMT -5
Yes. And I think it would be for the best. Thank you. Wait. Wait. I wanted your name changed to Hot Jacuzzi but you wouldn't because your old man Tom Waits would get sore
And now you conquer Trebor into changing his?
You are sooooo audacious
But my name is not confusing! There isn't anyone else here with a name anywhere similar to mine.  And I say Trebor conquered himself since it was his suggestion, and he made the name change by power of his OWN suggestion. I just simply agreed and was polite.  |
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 24, 2016 16:23:06 GMT -5
So it seems Trebor got conquered.
But Robert remains undefeated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 16:24:41 GMT -5
So it seems Trebor got conquered. But Robert remains undefeated. But! There is still time! |
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Post by realjla on Jan 24, 2016 18:07:34 GMT -5
$5 was quite expensive back in 1965 for what was essentially a catalog. Concurrant to that was dealer Howard Rogafsky who sold comics thru mail order and one of the first to buy ad space in Marvel Comics as well as fanzines like RBCC in the mid 60s. He charged very high prices for that time period but had quite a treasure trove of Golden Age books for sale. Rogafsky hung around at least thru the mid 70s and probably was the most well known (though a bit reviled about his pricing) comics dealer Rogofsky advertised in comics well into the '80s(DC used to have that page of dealer ads and mail-order offers, which I believe disappeared sometime after 1985). I mostly remember seeing his ads in DC books, but he may have been in Marvel's ad page after that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 18:23:29 GMT -5
I don't think I know the difference between an 8.5 and a 9.2 or 9.4. You should if you sell some of your comics. The distinctions are quite apparent. From a site whose grading standards can conform to mine... 9.4Nearly perfect with only minor imperfections. Overall look is as if it had just been purchased from the newstand and carefully read once or twice. Subtle bindery or printing flaws allowed, including a 1/16" bindery tear. Corners are sharp and either square or with ever-so-slight blunting, cover inks are bright and reflective, spine is tight and flat, staples are generally centered, pages range from white to cream and are supple. No cover soiling, creasing, tearing, pieces missing, or wear. 9.2Nearly perfect with some minor imperfections. Overall look is still as if it had carefully read a few times. Subtle bindery or printing flaws allowed. Corners are sharp and either square or with ever-so-slight blunting, cover inks are bright and reflective, spine is tight and flat, staples are generally centered, pages may be off-white to cream. No cover soiling, tearing, or pieces missing. One minor crease allowed in this grade. 8.5Outstanding with excellent eye appeal. Overall look is as if it had been read a few times and carefully handled. Limited number of bindery or printing flaws allowed. Corners may have minute wear, cover inks are bright and moderate to highly reflective, spine is almost completely flat with a possible minor color break, staples may have slight discoloration, pages may be cream to light tan and supple. Very minor cover soiling allowed. A small tear is allowed, but no pieces missing. Cover may have minimal surface wear with a possible 1/4" or smaller bend and color break. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 24, 2016 18:27:14 GMT -5
All Hail ROBERT! He is Unconquered.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jan 24, 2016 18:38:06 GMT -5
$5 was quite expensive back in 1965 for what was essentially a catalog. Concurrant to that was dealer Howard Rogafsky who sold comics thru mail order and one of the first to buy ad space in Marvel Comics as well as fanzines like RBCC in the mid 60s. He charged very high prices for that time period but had quite a treasure trove of Golden Age books for sale. Rogafsky hung around at least thru the mid 70s and probably was the most well known (though a bit reviled about his pricing) comics dealer Rogofsky advertised in comics well into the '80s(DC used to have that page of dealer ads and mail-order offers, which I believe disappeared sometime after 1985). I mostly remember seeing his ads in DC books, but he may have been in Marvel's ad page after that. Wasn't sure when it ended but Marvel was first with a page of classified ads in all their comics that included some mail-order comic dealers. I think they began running them about 1966. The big three were Howard Rogafsky, Bob Bell and some store in Brooklyn. In fact Bob Bell had a store in Sunnyside, Queens-a thrift shop where he also sold old comics. Due to the Marvel ads I started going to his store in 1969 twice a month to buy older Marvel comics I had missed. He also gave customers a free checklist for the Marvel super hero books which was a very smart move since it encouraged you to complete the runs. Yes by 1969 FF#1 was selling for $20. I was a reg customer until I started attending conventions in Manhattan the summer of 1970 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 19:59:13 GMT -5
Rogofsky advertised in comics well into the '80s(DC used to have that page of dealer ads and mail-order offers, which I believe disappeared sometime after 1985). I mostly remember seeing his ads in DC books, but he may have been in Marvel's ad page after that. Wasn't sure when it ended but Marvel was first with a page of classified ads in all their comics that included some mail-order comic dealers. I think they began running them about 1966. The big three were Howard Rogafsky, Bob Bell and some store in Brooklyn. In fact Bob Bell had a store in Sunnyside, Queens-a thrift shop where he also sold old comics. Due to the Marvel ads I started going to his store in 1969 twice a month to buy older Marvel comics I had missed. He also gave customers a free checklist for the Marvel super hero books which was a very smart move since it encouraged you to complete the runs. Yes by 1969 FF#1 was selling for $20. I was a reg customer until I started attending conventions in Manhattan the summer of 1970 How fascinating. I would listen to you talk about your childhood and your history reading comics, all day long, Ish. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jan 24, 2016 20:14:58 GMT -5
Wasn't sure when it ended but Marvel was first with a page of classified ads in all their comics that included some mail-order comic dealers. I think they began running them about 1966. The big three were Howard Rogafsky, Bob Bell and some store in Brooklyn. In fact Bob Bell had a store in Sunnyside, Queens-a thrift shop where he also sold old comics. Due to the Marvel ads I started going to his store in 1969 twice a month to buy older Marvel comics I had missed. He also gave customers a free checklist for the Marvel super hero books which was a very smart move since it encouraged you to complete the runs. Yes by 1969 FF#1 was selling for $20. I was a reg customer until I started attending conventions in Manhattan the summer of 1970 How fascinating. I would listen to you talk about your childhood and your history reading comics, all day long, Ish. Is that cuz I'm fascinating or your bored out of your mind. I'm willing to split the difference Get me in the mood and I'll tell you how, during a newspaper strike, NYC mayor Fiorella LaGuardia had a daily radio show where he read the funnies to the audience so they wouldn't miss out on the latest happenings of Dick Tracy, Little Orphan Annie, Popeye and others |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 20:23:34 GMT -5
How fascinating. I would listen to you talk about your childhood and your history reading comics, all day long, Ish. Is that cuz I'm fascinating or your bored out of your mind. I'm willing to split the difference Get me in the mood and I'll tell you how, during a newspaper strike, NYC mayor Fiorella LaGuardia had a daily radio show where he read the funnies to the audience so they wouldn't miss out on the latest happenings of Dick Tracy, Little Orphan Annie, Popeye and others HA! Because I like listening to people talk about their lives! Especially when the history involves a hobby that I love, and it's new to me, so I'm freshly enthusiastic about it.  Plus, people are kind of cool. Especially you, Ish! |
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